[access-uk] Re: Taking the plunge

Oh yeah and I've just remembered. One day when I was starting to learn to useWindow-eyes with this typing teacher, we came across something called 'hotkeys', but we decided to ignore them because we thought they might be dangerous and my teacher thought they would break the computer. I wonder why we didn't get much further.

James
----- Original Message ----- From: "James O'Dell" <jamesodell@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 11:58 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Taking the plunge



Hi

I think the idea of expecting other people to do Screen Reader comparisons is a little unfair - these pieces of software are so complex that it's very difficult to say whether one is 'better' than another. Also, independent reviewers have to e careful in what they say because they rely on the co-operaiton of the Screen REader manufacturers. I can only speak personally in saying that JAWS hasn't done anything in the last year to make me want to upgrade beyond version 4.51. Nowadays I fnd myself listening to Freedom Scientific presentations and thinking 'and?', 'so?'. But then I'm not sure I would have bought window-Eyes as a separate product, and there are definitely some situations where I'm pretty sure that JAWS scripting is really the only efficient way of using certain software. It would help if Window-Eyes would allow you to record simple keyboard macros.

James
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Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 10:05 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Taking the plunge



Andy.  If its the 'truth' you are after about screen readers,
well, I have to say you are unlikely to get it.  Its too bound up
with personal preference and often people simply like what they
have got used to using.

I have warned earlier that the old hornets nest of pitting one
screen reader's advantages against another could errupt here
again, and very acromonious it has gotten in the past!

You could do worse than to look at:

The Key to the Information Age: A Review of Three Screen Readers,
Part 1

(And just in case that does not reproduce as a direct link, then
try:

http://www.afb.org/afbpress/pub.asp?DocID=aw050304



Which should take you directly to the page.  Its an article which
appeared in AccessWorld in the US in summer of last year, and its
the first of a two part review.  Out-of-date now of course with
the advent of JAWS 6 and Window-Eyes 5, not to mention the onward
progress of HAL.



HTH.



Ray

Personal emails:  Email me at
mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx

----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 8:37 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Taking the plunge



Good on you James.

I wish I had the courage to plunge in like that.  However, I'd
really love
to hear the truth about screen readers. Is, for example, JAWS a
better
screen reader than WindowEyes?  How about someone doing a study,
or a
competition, so that we will finally accept that the grass is
never greener
on the other side, and we have probably now accepted our
preference, in
terms of screen readers!  I've a copy of WindowEyes and I am a
JAWS user,
but I've never bothered to sit down and get to know WindoEyes.
I'm Smitten.







Best wishes.
Andy from sunny Kilcreggan.

Drop me a wee line at:
andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

----- Original Message ----- From: "James O'Dell" <jamesodell@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 3:47 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Taking the plunge



Hi all

I've just received my Copy of Window-Eyes which was included
with the
Brailliant Braille Display that I purchased.  The last time I
used
Window-eyes I was being taught by a typing teacher who was very
nice, but
always yearning for the era of mechanical typewriters.  We were
battling
with Window Eyes in aroudn 1998, but came to the conclusion
that it wasn't
very good, most probably because neither of us knew the first
thing about
screen reading or computers.  I've been using JAWS more or less
since
then, but it will be interesting to see how the latest version
of WE
performs on a better system now I know what I'm doing.  If I'm
reasonably
satisfied with WE then I think I'll just maintain that, and
keep my
existing JAWS for applications where I need to do scripting
etc.  It will
be interesting to finally find out whether all the great things
said about
Window Eyes on here are really true!

Seeyer later

James
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