[access-uk] Re: TV licensing again

  • From: "Richard Godfrey-McKay" <richard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 14:13:05 -0000

Yes, that's what I thought too, but it's not what the TV licensing page
says, which is that you need a licence to watch.  Strange eh?  


Richard Godfrey-McKay

Telephone: 01738-445 880

Mobile: 07791 452 593

 


-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Barbara Wilson
Sent: 10 November 2011 13:52
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: TV licensing again

That's what I always thought.

Barbara


-----Original Message-----
From: jeff flint
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 12:55 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: TV licensing again

Hi Barbara
A lawyer friend told me yesterday that the law is if you possess a device
capable of receiving TV, not if you actually watch it, which is the issue.
I had a sighted friend who was prosecuted successfully because he a
computer, he really never watched TV, but he could have.
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barbara Wilson" <barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 12:43 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: TV licensing again


> Also remember that even if you don't need a licence for a sound receiver, 
> you do if you watch online. Sorry if this has rleady been said.
>
> Barbara
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Barry Toner" <barry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 12:34 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: TV licensing again
>
>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> Where is this from?  The RNIB Goodmans product page?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Barry.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 
>> Of john coley
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 8:10 PM
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: TV licensing again
>>
>> Hi Kevin, I've pasted below what it says. Note, although the heading is 
>> sound only receivers it refers to a digi box, none of which are sound 
>> only.
>>
>> Sound only receivers
>> You do not require a TV licence if you use a digital set-top box solely 
>> to listen to television programmes through a hi-fi or stereo system. The 
>> set top box must be incapable of recording and must not be connected to a

>> device capable of showing images.
>>
>>
>>                    John.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Kevin Cussick" <the.big.white.shepherd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 8:01 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: TV licensing again
>>
>>
>>> This is correct,  you need a TV license if you equipment that can get a
>>> picture.
>>>
>>> It don't matter if you don't have a screen connected and I don't think 
>>> the
>>> Rnib actually said you didn't need a license if you don't have a screen.
>>>
>>> The only way you don't have to get a license is if you use something 
>>> that
>>> can only get the sound a TV receiver,  this has always been the case.
>>>
>>> I think if your blind you get the license half price anyway.
>>>
>>> So If the rnib have actually said you don't need a license with the 
>>> smart
>>> box they are wrong I know I am sticking my neck out saying this but I 
>>> have
>>> spoken to lots of people over the years and I know we get the sound free
>>> but not the picture.
>>>
>>> I can't remember when this was written up I think it's an old wireless
>>> telegraphy rule dating back to 1948 I am not going to post any more 
>>> about
>>> this this was my findings.
>>>
>>> And if I am now wrong fare enough I would love to be proved wrong but I
>>> don't think I am wrong.
>>>
>>> On 09/11/2011 14:47, Richard Godfrey-McKay wrote:
>>>> When I looked at this quite some years ago, the licence was required if
>>>> you
>>>> possessed equipment capable of receiving a TV transmission.  Look as if
>>>> they're saying that that position hasn't changed.
>>>> Richard
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Richard Godfrey-McKay
>>>>
>>>> Telephone: 01738-445 880
>>>>
>>>> Mobile: 07791 452 593
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of
>>>> john coley
>>>> Sent: 09 November 2011 14:06
>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] TV licensing again
>>>>
>>>> Hi everybody, a few months or so ago there was a thread regarding the
>>>> Goodmans Smarttalk freeview box, and whether or not a licence was
>>>> required
>>>> if someone was using the box for sound only, with no TV plugged into 
>>>> it,
>>>> just speakers.
>>>>    The general consensus was that a licence wouldn't be required.
>>>> Checking on
>>>> the RNIB website seemed to confirm that.
>>>>    As that applies to me I rang the TV licensing authority today to
>>>> cancel my
>>>> direct debit. I explained the situation to them, and told them what the
>>>> RNIB
>>>> had to say on the matter, and the guy, having gone away to check came
>>>> back
>>>> and said that since the box could receive a tv signal at time of
>>>> broadcast I
>>>> would require a licence, whether a TV was connected to the box or not.
>>>>    Further to that he said that if I had a computer in my home I'd
>>>> require a
>>>> TV licence, since a computer has the potential of receiving TV
>>>> broadcasts.
>>>>    Since this was completely at odds with what the RNIB said, and what
>>>> posters to this list had said I rang the RNIB to check. I haven't heard
>>>> back
>>>> from them yet, but it will be interesting to see what they say.
>>>>    According to the guy at TV licensing the only circumstance in which 
>>>> a
>>>> license isn't required would be if the box wasn't able to receive a
>>>> picture,
>>>> and was a sound only receiver. Mind you, given what the guy said about
>>>> the
>>>> need for a licence if there was a computer at the address it sounds as 
>>>> if
>>>> everyone needs one, since if computers do so would mobiles, since they
>>>> also
>>>> have the potential to receive a TV signal.
>>>>                      John.
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