[access-uk] Re: TREKKER BREEZE
- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 19:04:11 +0100
Hi Jackie,
With the new 51 channel receivers, you rarely get a problem with signals,
even on trains. The N82 also has a 32 channel receiver, which is the same
as the Holux M1000, but appears to be better, in that it maintains a signal
on trains, and I know, I use a lot of trains <Smile>.
All the best
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Jackie Cairns
Sent: Saturday 12 July 2008 17:37
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: TREKKER BREEZE
Hi Yusuf
I like your ideas.
The problem you would have with one for railways is that it doesn't always
work on trains as things stand, due to poor or no signal. Virgin Trains and
the Cross Country services are such examples where a signal is very hard to
come by unless you do as Ian does when he visits me, and stands in the
corridor outside the compartment where he is meant to sit! (lol).
If you go to edit a word when putting in the name of somewhere, it
definitely screws it up big time. Try it out and you'll soon see what I
mean. We've reported this to Humanware, so perhaps there will be a fix at
some point in the future.
Jackie
Email: cairnsplace@xxxxxxx
Skype Name: Cairnsplace
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yusuf" <yusufaosman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 2:11 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: TREKKER BREEZE
> Jackie, Can't say I've ever experienced the text entry problem you
> mention. I did try to edit a search for POIs in Greenwich and didn't have
> a problem, but I tend to delete the whole word rather than edit it.
>
> I always use Braille entry because I'm not familiar with using a telephone
> keypad for texting as I use a phone with a quirty keypad, but it would
> make sense to have it work the same way as a phone wood.
>
> I've not seen the Trekker Breeze, but from what I've heard on this list
> and others I wouldn't buy it simply because it doesn't give me the
> flexibility I need. I like to be able to create my own routes based on
> addresses or POIs or combination of the above and the current GPS
> position. I'd say its for people who are not so confident in using
> technology and don't want to push the boundaries. I've had the confidence
> to work out routes using Trekker and then walk them without any sighted
> assistance beforehand. But that takes a hell of a lot of confidents and I
> can quite understand how some people may not have it. I know that
> sometimes I don't have it either.
>
> I do think theres' room for improvement for motorised mode, sometimes I
> find it very difficult to give instructions to a car driver based on what
> Trekker is telling me but that maybe a conbination of Trekker and my own
> lack of understanding of a particular road setup. Having travelled with in
> car GPS systems on a few occasions, they do seem to provide clearer
> instructions than Trekker, but I don't know how or why that maybe, apart
> from the obvious that Trekker was not designed with vehicular travel in
> mind.
>
> One thing I am keen on being introduced is a mode that would provide a
> picture of a road, or series of roads. I mean something along the lines
> of, London road, A23, going from Stretham High road to North end in a
> South Westerly direction, with 1 roundabout and, well you get the picture.
> It would help me in building up a picture of the physical environment and
> I for one would find that very useful.
>
> I'm still very keen on a rail mode as well, 1 that would only give
> information on upcoming rail stations. But given the improvement in rail
> announcements it wouldn't be as useful as perhaps 4 or 5 years ago.
> Woops didn't mean to write something so long.
> Yusuf
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:53 AM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: TREKKER BREEZE
>
>
>> Hi Yusuf
>>
>> One of the big bugs I've found when messing about with Ian's Trekker Pro
>> is the inability you have to edit names. If you want to edit the name,
>> you are as well clearing the entire field and entering data again.
>> Don't try going along the field and then inserting something extra,
>> because it cocks it up big time. Have you ever noticed that? We've
>> told Humanware about it, but nobody seems to understand what we mean.
>>
>> I'd also like to see the mode in which you input data in text style
>> changed so that the letters go before the number, rather than the other
>> way round. If you input using text language on a phone, the letters on
>> your keypad always come before the number, whereas it's the other way
>> round on Trekker, and the reason why I always enter data in Braille
>> mode.
>>
>> I hope it'll be possible to see Breeze at Sight next week. I'm there
>> for the duration, so here's hoping.
>>
>>
>> Jackie Cairns
>>
>> Braille Support Adviser
>>
>> Email: Jackie.Cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> Sight and Sound Technology Ltd
>>
>> Welton House North Wing
>>
>> Summerhouse Road
>>
>> Moulton Park
>>
>> Northampton
>>
>> NN3 6WD
>>
>> Telephone: 0845 6347979
>>
>> or
>>
>> Telephone: 01604 798070
>>
>> Fax: 01604 798090
>>
>> Web: www.sightandsound.co.uk
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>> Of Yusuf
>> Sent: 10 July 2008 12:35
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: TREKKER BREEZE
>>
>> I'm slightly behind on this one. I can't comment on any of the other GPS
>> offerings because I haven't actually used them. I've used Trekker for 5
>> years pretty much from the time it came out. for me its eas of use when
>> going out, I can use 1 hand to do all the things I need to, its free
>> mode, very useful when taking the dog for a free run in the park are
>> just 2 of its advantahges.
>>
>> The maps come from Navtech and in my area Croydon I haven't noticed too
>> many street with no names. But this seems to vary from area to area.
>>
>> The other big advantage to Trekker was and is the developers in Canada.
>> I'm a beta tester for them and they have always taken on board what I
>> have said both critical and positive. Many of the things I asked for in
>> the original Trekker have been implemented over the years. More than
>> this they listen to the customers. I've only had to pay for 1 upgrade in
>> the time I've had Trekker, some 5 years and its gone from version 1 up
>> to version 3.
>>
>> If I were ever to switch there would have to be a lot of very good
>> reasons.
>> Yusuf
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "will lomas" <lomaswilliam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 5:15 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: TREKKER BREEZE
>>
>>
>>> if wayfinder had more POI and free mode, plus the ability to mar where
>>
>>> you are as POI this woud be a total winner
>>> will
>>>
>>> On 6 Jul 2008, at 15:59, Dean Wilcox wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ah now the poste code support in Access in fantastic and is a big
>> plus
>>>> over Trekker, together with its versatility of being turned into a
>> GPS
>>>> for the sighted in an instant. I can be some use as a passenger
>> now!
>>>>
>>>> As for improvements, I like how Trekker says the intersection with
>> rode
>>>> a on your left, road b infront etc as your just walking along. I
>> also
>>>> love how Trekker lets you put a POI in where you are stood, I don't
>>>> think Access lets you do this? There is also the Trekker free mode
>>>> which can be handy but if your a good Access user you'll probably
>> get
>>>> used to checking where your nearest crossing or favourite is using
>> one
>>>> of the tabs. Trekker, in my view, is a slightly better system
>> because
>>>> it announces things automatically when your not in route mode and
>> there
>>>> are more one touch buttons. Wayfinder then beats it for me with its
>>
>>>> size, versatility and postcode search facility. Oh and I carry my
>> phone
>>>> everywhere and Trekker, particularly in summer, can be awquard with
>> a
>>>> T-shirt, geans and no bag. I can't totally make my mind up between
>> the
>>>> two but I must say that the Wayfinder maps are comprehensive with
>> less
>>>> no named streets, something I hear Humanware haven't improved on in
>>>> certain parts of the country.
>>>>
>>>> Oh well sorry that turned into a bit of a bitty post but I hope you
>> can
>>>> make sense of it.
>>>>
>>>> At 10:14 06/07/2008, you wrote:
>>>>> Hi Dean, and anyone else,
>>>>>
>>>>> What does Trekker have that Wayfinder Access doesn't? I would be
>> vfery
>>>>> interested to know, first as a reseller of Wayfinder, so we can
>> improve
>>>>> it,
>>>>> but secondly having tried them both, I can't see much missing in
>> WF.
>>>>> In
>>>>> fact all the blindness solutions except Wayfinder Access annoy me
>>>>> intensely
>>>>> with their lack of postal code support.
>>>>>
>>>>> All the best
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>>> Behalf Of
>>>>> Dean Wilcox
>>>>> Sent: Saturday 5 July 2008 20:44
>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: TREKKER BREEZE
>>>>>
>>>>> I couldn't have written that better about Trekker pro and Access
>>>>> myself! They both have their strengths and weaknesses but I've love
>>>>> to mix their features and then I should have the perfect package!
>>>>>
>>>>> At 20:06 05/07/2008, you wrote:
>>>>> >Hi Carol
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Ian uses the Trekker Pro, but he also has Wayfinder Access on his
>>>>> >phone. This is a general hobby for him, and he thinks the whole
>>>>> >thing would be better if he could pick things from Trekker and
>>>>> >Wayfinder Access, and have them rolled into one decent product. He
>>>>> >says Trekker Pro has got some real bugs in it, but he uses both
>>>>> >quite a lot just to find out where he is and putting his own
>>>>> landmarks in.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >I'll be at Sight Village this year, so I'm hoping to perhaps have a
>>>>> >look at Trekker Breeze at some point, just to report back to Ian as
>>>>> >he is interested in it.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Incidentally, if any of you are going to Sight, please come and say
>>>>> >hello to me as it would be nice to put voices to the many of you I
>>>>> >have written to on and off list over the months.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Jackie
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Email: cairnsplace@xxxxxxx
>>>>> >Skype Name: Cairnsplace
>>>>> >----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Pearson"
>>>>> ><carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> >To: "Access UK Mailing List" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> >Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 6:36 PM
>>>>> >Subject: [access-uk] TREKKER BREEZE
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >>Hi all,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>My husband's thinking of getting the Trekker Breeze which I
>>>>> >>understand is somewhat of a cut-down version of the GPS software
>>>>> >>used with the BrailleNote family of products. If anyone uses
>> this,
>>>>> >>I'd be interested in your observations, likes and dislikes and to
>>>>> >>know how you use it (I mean, for what purposes you find it works
>>>>> for you).
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>--
>>>>> >>Carol
>>>>> >>carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> >>
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