[access-uk] Re: TIME FOR A RANT ...
- From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:45:55 +0100
Ibrabim would appear to be the boss as I have found before. Have we had
official confirmation of his moderator status? I probably missed that e-mail
like I missed the one about changing Talking Book machine.
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: TIME FOR A RANT ...
From: "Barbara Wilson" <barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 25/06/2009 7:03 PM
Okay Eleanor, hopefully there is room for all opinions on here. However, as
Ibrahim has spoken we should all obey and say no more on the issue.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "ELEANOR BURKE" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 6:32 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: TIME FOR A RANT ...
>I did ask in good faith as I do know you deal with Talks. Now you mention
>I apologise for having forgotten this.
>
> Eleanor
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Barbara Wilson" <barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 3:25 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: TIME FOR A RANT ...
>
>
>> Eleanor, I am sure from other lists you'll remember I am not a fan of the
>> RNIB and as for working for them, I think they prefer to take our money
>> rather than pay us to do anything!
>>
>> Far be it from me to defend the RNIB, but I'm just making a point. Feel
>> free to disagree, that's what a discussion is all about.
>>
>>
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "ELEANOR BURKE" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:25 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: TIME FOR A RANT ...
>>
>>
>>> Do you work for them?
>>>
>>> Eleanor
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Barbara Wilson" <barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 11:39 AM
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: TIME FOR A RANT ...
>>>
>>>
>>>> No it isn't. The RNIB is still a charity after all. Okay, we could
>>>> argue forever about their charitable status when they sell products,
>>>> but in the real world they can't be expected to provide the level of
>>>> hands on service at the drop of a hat like say Currys or PC World can.
>>>>
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>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 11:09 AM
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: TIME FOR A RANT ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> But for blind people it is.
>>>>>
>>>>> -original message-
>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: TIME FOR A RANT ...
>>>>> From: "Barbara Wilson" <barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Date: 25/06/2009 7:51 AM
>>>>>
>>>>> No, but common sense should tell us that a resource centre is not a
>>>>> high
>>>>> street store, therefore their time and staff resources are not the
>>>>> same.
>>>>>
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>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "ELEANOR BURKE" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 1:56 AM
>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: TIME FOR A RANT ...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Tony we cannot be mind readers and cannot know of an appointment
>>>>>> system
>>>>>> through inspiration.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Eleanor
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Tony Sweeney" <deirton711@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Cc: "tony sweeney" <deirton711@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 1:53 AM
>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: TIME FOR A RANT ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Carol,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am outside your country's so really can't say too much.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I agree with Steve's point that in my experience for example it
>>>>>>> would be
>>>>>>> good for an appointment to be made.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now on Roger's point, there is no need for rudeness by a prospective
>>>>>>> supplier!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You have now a contact in the RNIB so go for it!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> By the way (for your information) that person's mail appeared on the
>>>>>>> list!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyway sure it has happened to most of us I'm sure in the past!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Relax and hopefully you will get that problem you wrote of resolved
>>>>>>> satisfactorily.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All the best
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tony
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Carol Pearson" <carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 5:04 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: TIME FOR A RANT ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I agree Steve, to an extent, but I know they have a High Tech team
>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>shouldn't they all have a pretty good working knowledge about all
>>>>>>>>items?
>>>>>>>>I mean, when they haven't got customers, they're there to play to
>>>>>>>>their
>>>>>>>>hearts' content, answer the odd call or two here and there I guess!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now perhaps I'm really getting even more mad than when I started
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>> morning so I'd best crawl back into a hole somewhere! <Smiles>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Carol
>>>>>>>> carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ---- Original Message ----
>>>>>>>> From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:20 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: TIME FOR A RANT ...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Roger,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have some sympathy for Carol too, but if you are
>>>>>>>>> expecting an in-depth demo of a product, it is really
>>>>>>>>> only polite to make an appointment. If you don't make an
>>>>>>>>> appointment, you can't really expect someone to drop
>>>>>>>>> everything just to give you an in-depth demo on the fly.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> All the best
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of roger south
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday 24 June 2009 15:43
>>>>>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: TIME FOR A RANT ...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Carol
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You have my sympathy as I've been down that street as
>>>>>>>>> well. Several years ago I wanted to buy a portable book
>>>>>>>>> reader and the one to have was the Road Runner. I have a
>>>>>>>>> severe hearing loss and therefore hear mostly
>>>>>>>>> electronically. This made me wary as to whether it would
>>>>>>>>> be suitable for me.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I phoned the dealer and was told the price etc. I
>>>>>>>>> explained my difficulty and fears so would I be able to
>>>>>>>>> return it if I needed to. In no circumstances I was told
>>>>>>>>> as the machine would be second hand. If it was unsuitable
>>>>>>>>> I'd have to find a buyer to purchase it off me. What he
>>>>>>>>> didn't realise and was not interested in listening to was
>>>>>>>>> that only the actual machine would be used briefly as I
>>>>>>>>> would have used my own batteries out of courtesy and I
>>>>>>>>> never use head-phones ever as they are of no use to me.
>>>>>>>>> My own induction loop would have been plugged in instead.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Another list member agreed to meet me and allow me to try
>>>>>>>>> his. It transpired
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I was unable to get on with it and never did purchase
>>>>>>>>> one. But the dealer in
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> question, due to his short sightedness and rude behaviour
>>>>>>>>> has lost a potential customer for life. I would wait for
>>>>>>>>> hell to freeze over before I bought even a box of matches
>>>>>>>>> from him in the future.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Rger
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Carol Pearson" <carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>> To: "Access UK Mailing List" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:10 AM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] TIME FOR A RANT ...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't exactly apologise for this post and I'll try to
>>>>>>>>> keep it brief!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've just written about my recent experience when
>>>>>>>>> visiting the RNIB shop at Judd Street for the first time
>>>>>>>>> a few weeks back ...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (I won't repeat here what I wrote there ...)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My quest to get a proper indepth demonstration of the
>>>>>>>>> Plextalk Pocket has been exceedingly difficult ... and
>>>>>>>>> I've now decided to give it up.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not only was I unable to get anything like a
>>>>>>>>> demonstration at the RNIB, but I have declined to
>>>>>>>>> purchase the "Infotech" article. This was the last nail
>>>>>>>>> in the coffin for me! I was told this would cost me £10
>>>>>>>>> as I'm not a regular subscriber to "Infotech" and you can
>>>>>>>>> no longer purchase individual articles at a reasonable
>>>>>>>>> rate. I think £10 is too steep and, despite my writing
>>>>>>>>> both Brian and Terry at T&T, I heard nothing from them.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well, that's just too bad! It seems my quest for a
>>>>>>>>> recorder I'll really like and get on with is just not to
>>>>>>>>> be!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Surely, it ought to be easier than this to get proper
>>>>>>>>> demonstrations and a working knowledge of this high tech
>>>>>>>>> stuff for which we have to pay fairly high prices anyway
>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> OK - rant over!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Carol
>>>>>>>>> carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>
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