[access-uk] Re: THE OLD CHESTNUT OF FREEDOM'S US AND UK PRICES

  • From: "Barry Hill" <bbinc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 20:12:50 +0100

That sounds about right, Mike.  Also, the distributor is under contract to
only sell the ones that they have to pay more for, I guess.

 


Cheers

Barry 
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Mike Moore
Sent: 15 September 2010 3:22 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: THE OLD CHESTNUT OF FREEDOM'S US AND UK PRICES

Hi,

You sometimes have to wonder if the companies, such as you mentioned Barry
get their item from B&Q then re-sell it! I know, having been in sales that
it was infuriating to find that the general public could purchase items as
cheap if not cheaper than we could buy it in as a retailer.

Tooooo many middle men? eh?

Regards,

Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry Hill" <bbinc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 2:38 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: THE OLD CHESTNUT OF FREEDOM'S US AND UK PRICES


> Hi Steve and all
>
> I do appreciate the genuine extra costs that a UK distributor of 
> access goods has, but I also feel that there are some that are just 
> rip-off's.  For instance, I was looking for a shower seat for my mum 
> recently.  I went to a specialist access company for the seat where 
> the price was £79.99.  My sister went to B&Q and found the exact same 
> seat for £17.99.  I know that B&Q have massive buying power, work on 
> small profit margins with high turnover and don't have reps, but 
> that's one hell of a mark up.
>
> Cheers
>
> Barry
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
> Sent: 15 September 2010 2:16 PM
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: THE OLD CHESTNUT OF FREEDOM'S US AND UK 
> PRICES
>
> Hi Gordon,
>
> What the US resellers don't pay is import duty.  So the guy who 
> discounts for shipping in the US can't take account of UK import duty, 
> which is hefty.
>
> All the best
>
> Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gordon Keen
> Sent: Monday 30 August 2010 10:02
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: THE OLD CHESTNUT OF FREEDOM'S US AND UK 
> PRICES
>
> So U.S. retailers have the same range of costs to meet as their U.K.K 
> equivelents but U.K. prices are higher, is that right?
>
> Regards
>
> G
>
> From glorious Devon, England.
> On 30 Aug 2010, at 09:26, Glenn Tookey wrote:
>
>> Yes, I am sure they do, but they do not do it for the UK, we have to 
>> do
> that and it is an overhead that forms part of the equation, that's all 
> I'm saying.
>>
>> As, I said earlier, the price of our products in £ is within a few %
> normally of the US price. The Pearl is the only exception because our 
> dealer discount does not cover all of the costs outlined in George and 
> My emails.
>>
>> When the discounted period end and the price in the US goes to $1200 
>> and
> out dealer discount returns to normal level, then the Pearl will 
> follow the same structure as our other UK products.
>>
>> Regards
>> Glenn
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf
> Of Gordon Keen
>> Sent: 29 August 2010 16:47
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: THE OLD CHESTNUT OF FREEDOM'S US AND UK 
>> PRICES
>>
>> Are  you saying that U.S. distributors do not provide the same level 
>> of
> support and after sales service?
>> (raised eyebrow)
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> G
>>
>> From glorious Devon, England.
>> On 29 Aug 2010, at 16:28, Glenn Tookey wrote:
>>
>>> So, taking up George's commentary, now the goods are in the 
>>> Reseller's
> warehouse in the UK.
>>>
>>> Now have to allow for warranty and repairs (if we return 
>>> goods to US
>>> we
> have to pay the shipping) - however good a product some of 
> them need after
> sales attention and service.
>>>
>>> Many AT products- especially new ones -  have to be 
>>> taken to the
> potential customer which means taking them to exhibition 
> (pay staff, pay for
> vehicle, pay for travel costs, pay for insurance etc) and 
> / or take the
> goods to a home demonstration. Software is still shipped 
> in boxes as
> customers still want the media. The cost of taking a 
> product on the road to
> demo is significant.
>>>
>>> For software we also provide free helpdesk support, 
>>> sometimes that
>>> means
> hours on the phone for one specific problem.
>>>
>>> When you look at the UK price for a product you will 
>>> find that it is
>>> not
> too far out from the US price, the exception for us at 
> Sight and Sound is
> the Pearl, which started this thread.
>>>
>>> The reason why that product varies so significantly is 
>>> that because
>>> it is
> heavily discounted in the US then reseller discounts are 
> approximately 50%
> of normal discount (and the gross price is halved  in the 
> offer, so net
> profit to pay all of the costs outlined in the thread is 
> much lower) - hence
> the difference between US and UK price of the Pearl.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Glenn
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