[access-uk] Re: Stupid question about mobiles and accessibility

ah! another can of worms you've opened here Steve!... well, for me at least, I thought the only phones compatible with Talks were Nokia phones, now you talk about a Panasonic, here the special offer on phones don't favour Nokia anymore, they are phones from LG, Philips, Sagem Alcatel and all sorts of barbaric brands, could you try to find an extensive list of mobiles that accept Talks and send it to me personally?you can have a cyber velvetty kiss from me for your troubles, I promiss you, they are quite special!... I don't send them to anyone!...just a chosen few!...Smile!...

Cheers now,

Marie
----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 11:39 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Stupid question about mobiles and accessibility



Hi Vanja,

This is incorrect. Hands-free, in phone terms, means using the rear
speaker. Talks only speaks from the rear speaker, not the earpiece, so all
of the phones that support Talks use the hands-free feature to speak.
Having said that, the volume goes quite low on most phones, except the 6260,
as I believe Tink is finding out, eh Tink? But to actually use it, you
don't need to hold it to your ear, just hold it in your hands and use it at
a comfortable volume. If you have the 3650 or 3660, this is particularly
quiet. If you have the 6260, this is very loud. All the other phones are
somewhere in between, and at nicer volumes. Having said that, I haven't
heard the Panasonic X700 with Talks yet, anyone got one? But to use it, you
just use it as a sighted person would, because you can set Talks to be as
quiet or loud as you want, either boom to the room, or nice and quiet.


Hope this helps.

All the best
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf
Of Vanja Sudar
Sent: 02 February 2005 16:55
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Stupid question about mobiles and accessibility


Hi,

the phone that you buy does not neceserilly has to have hands free feature,
although most phones these days have it. You do not have to use hands free
with talks as talks output comes through the phone's speakers. You may want
to do so though if you're, for example, on the train so you might not want
your talks to be heard, but use the headfones in stead, but headfones are
definitely not essential for use of talks.
Vanja
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----- Original Message -----
From: "marie baisez" <m.baisez@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 10:51 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Stupid question about mobiles and accessibility



Does this mean that when you buy a phone intending to use it with
accessibility you have to make sure it has the hands free feature?
would appreciate a bit more info, thanks in advance.

Marie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry" <bbinc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 11:25 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Stupid question about mobiles and accessibility


Hi Marie

Talks actually uses the external speaker so you can hear it without
having to hold it to your ear.  You can adjust the volume of the speech
so that you don't annoy people in the same room as you.  However, in
noisey situations, I do have to hold the phone to my ear as the volume,
at least on my phone, does not go very high.

Barry H

----- Original Message -----
From: "marie baisez" <m.baisez@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 10:14 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Stupid question about mobiles and accessibility


to all of you who use a mobile with Talks or the other prog. that make
the screen accessible this might sound like a very stupid question but
here it goes, just the same as one never learns unless one asks:...
How can you manipulate the phone, I.e push its tiny keys comfortably and
efficiently while you have the phone against your ear so that you can
listen to what Talks is saying? isn't it rather awkward especially in a
noisy environment?
do you have to use a headset to use the accessibility features? if so,
it must mean a phone being less portable and another thing to have to
remember to pick up from a table, a desk or these silly collapsible
shelf you get to use on a train.
Please tell me how you have solved this problem, or is it me making one
where there isn't any?


Thanks to all who will make the time to reply...

Cheers now,

Marie

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