[access-uk] Re: Stolen Braillenote tangent

Where exactly do you think I said that? ... would you like to quote and then 
I can respond fairly! ... beinga high tax payer myself I know what it is to 
"fund other people" and since the ATW scheme is there to help us in our work 
but fails quite often to do this, but as I have just said on a previous 
post, I don't think this list is for moaning about them!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Colin Fowler" <col.fowler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 7:01 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Stolen Braillenote tangent


> Kirsten,
>
> I feel that your accusation towards Brendan and his comments were
> ungrounded. Your presumption that we as tax payers should fund your
> employers oblidations to continue to ensure that you are not at a
> disadvantage compared with others for whom a similar reason would not 
> arise
> are preposterous, and is evidence of the ignorance and systemic abuse of 
> the
> whole Access to work scheme by both employers and employees alike.
>
> As Brendan said it is extremely unlikely that upgrades are so critical as 
> to
> leave you at a substantial disadvantage compared with your colleagues, and
> as you are entitled to a review of your support from Access to Work every
> three years, I doubt very much whether the fact that you have  a 
> reasonable
> adjustment that is not being upgraded every time a new version becomes
> available would be considered to be treating you at a disadvantage or  a
> reasonable demand.
>
> Perhaps I could suggest that rather than you feeling aggrieved by comments
> made by those that work as professionals within this field you approach 
> your
> employer and make a case for them in funding any necessary upgrades 
> similar
> to how they would fund upgrades to their BCM software for the business.
>
>   If then, failing approval by your employer  to fund these upgrades you
> still feel aggrieved you will have the option to consider a case of
> discrimination relating to your disability. You may indeed have a case for
> being treated more favourably than persons for whom a similar reason would
> not apply, but be realistic your employer should fund your reasonable
> adjustments - they have a duty to do so under the Disability 
> Discrimination
> Act 1995 and as I also suspect that your employer may also have a General 
> &
> Specific duty to ensure that Disability Equality is addressed in the way
> they conduct themselves towards their employers who identify as being a
> person with a disability, they may also feel uncomfortable from that 
> aspect
> of the legislation DDA 2005.
>
>
> Kind regards
>
> Colin Fowler
> Disability Consultant
> www.social-model.org.uk
> Telephone: 01582 483 283
> Text/Mobile: 07793 111 253
> E mail: col.fowler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kirsten Edmondson" <keaedmondson@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 3:19 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Stolen Braillenote tangent
>
>
>> Actually I haven't got it out of the box, because I haven't yet been
>> supplied with a computer to put it on! and no ... the company will be
>> charging me £190 to upgrade as ATW were stupid enough not to get me an
>> SMA!
>> So don't just make ridiculous assumptions when you know nothing about my
>> situation!
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Brendan Magill" <brendan@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 1:59 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Stolen Braillenote tangent
>>
>>
>>> Hi Barry, Kirsten and everyone,
>>>
>>> Barry, the paragraphs I quoted are not available on the Web, they are
>>> from an AtW internal document which defines the whole of AtW in some 160
>>> pages.  I've been fortunate enough to be able to acquire a copy of this,
>>> because of the work which I do, though I had to sell my soul to get it.
>>> That's why you  couldn't find it with Google!
>>>
>>> As for equipment eventually wearing out or becoming obsolete over an
>>> extended period of time, there should be no problem in AtW funding a
>>> replacement.  It is recognized that technology does move on and that
>>> jobs change as a consequence, so if there's any problem then you need to
>>> make a fresh application to AtW on the basis that your working situation
>>> has changed as a result of changes in technology over time.
>>>
>>> Kirsten, the query you raise is unlikely to be of real significance.
>>> Firstly, changes from one version to the next are rarely so critical
>>> that one cannot function with the older version.  Secondly, if a new
>>> version comes out so quickly after you've acquired the older one, most
>>> suppliers will have a free upgrade policy which should cover you.
>>> Thirdly, if you haven't got it out of the box within four weeks of
>>> receiving it, you probably don't need it anyway.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Brendan.
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> BRENDAN MAGILL
>>> Business, Employment &
>>> Disability Consultancy
>>>
>>> 8 York Place
>>> Worcester
>>> WR1 3DR
>>> England
>>>
>>> Phone: +44 (0)1905 28286
>>> Fax:   +44 (0)870 127 7856
>>>
>>> Web:   www.magill.co.uk
>>>
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