well sky seem to want to just screw people for money so i guess the text message charge is a way to screw you over and to be honest if the recording feature is not accessible on the screenreader site i would report sky to someone not sure who as they are not committed to their accessibility as promised
On 18 Nov 2008, at 21:21, Darran Ross wrote:
Steve, I'm afraid I'd have to say "so what", to your comparison with therental of a DVD. We're not talking about renting DVD's, now are we? Our sighted friends don't have to pay an extra £0.25 or £0.37 to make recordings appear on their Sky box. Why on earth should Martin have to accept the text charges and get on with it?Surely his requests and views are worthy of a little more than a sarcasticputdown? Regards. Darran ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 7:46 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sky Plus | Hi Martin, || 3.70 for 10 programmes? Wow, it costs at least 4.99 to rent one DVD.|| By the way, if your phone company are charging you 12p over the top of the | 25p Sky costs, you're with the wrong company. My Tmobile texts are 25pand | no more. | | All the best | | Steve | | -----Original Message-----| From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On BehalfOf | martin wilsher | Sent: Tuesday 18 November 2008 11:05 | To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sky Plus || Yes I use the mobile text service, but that costs twelve p per text andthen| twenty five p too. A total of 3 7 p per prog. Ten progs, £3.70 chuck ina | few misspellings, and you have one hell of a mobile bill.] || Yes, I would like to know how manual record works please. Email me at the| address below. Thanks. | | Hope to hear from you soon. | | From Martin. | | Please email me at: | | m.wilsher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx | | Thanks | | | Please visit my website: | | www.martin-wilsher.com | | | | ] | | -----Original Message-----| From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On BehalfOf | Terry Clasper | Sent: 18 November 2008 10:29 | To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sky Plus || I know what you mean, I was also really fed up cause for ages I want round | in circles with the accessible listings before I realised that they had| screwed it up. | It's a shame we have to use it inaccessibly because the feature is actually | very good.| Have you tried the text messaging version, this is OK providing you knowthe | format to send the message in and of course providing you don't mind wearing | the 25P confirmation message cost.| When I'm at home I always use the manual record method it works everytime | and if fast, if you want to know step by step instructions write to me off| list mate. || having said all that I still would be lost without it all be it with its| drawbacks. | | | | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "martin wilsher" <m.wilsher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 10:10 AM | Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sky Plus | | | > Hi Terry: | >| > Talking of cluncky operation, I have just spent ten minutes trying toget| > two programmes remote recorded via sky.com. Now done, but phew! What a| > carry on! | > | > -----Original Message-----| > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf| > Of | > Terry Clasper | > Sent: 18 November 2008 09:54 | > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sky Plus | >| > Martin absolutely right it should be accessible and the fact that the | > reemote record option doesn't work from the screenreader version iscrazy. | > Good luck mate! | > | > | > | > ----- Original Message ----- | > From: "martin wilsher" <m.wilsher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 9:56 PM | > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sky Plus | > | >| >> Sky plus is a sky box with a hard drive so you can record prgrammes.| >> Since| >> terry's mail re left clicking etc, I have tried this, and it workswell, | >> but| >> is clunky, so I won't be easing up on sky to fix the problem with the | >> accessible tv listings on the sky website.-----Original Message-----| >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf | >> Of | >> Spring.flower | >> Sent: 17 November 2008 20:58 | >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sky Plus | >>| >> Will someone please tell me more about this service as I've no ideaabout | >> what you're talking about? is there an extra charge for this? | >> | >> Trace | >> | >> ----- Original Message ----- | >> From: "Terry Clasper" <terry.clasper@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | >> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 1:58 PM | >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sky Plus | >> | >> | >>> Martin. | >>> Well you are kind of right here.| >>> For some reason if you try to remote record from the screenreader| >>> version| >>> of the TV guide it doesn't work, however if you do if from the normalTV| >>> guide which is accessibnle anyway it works just fine, you just have to | >>> left click the program then left click the remote record, then enteryou | >>> the yes option. | >>> I use it several times a day and have no issues. | >>> | >>> | >>> | >>> ----- Original Message ----- | >>> From: "martin wilsher" <m.wilsher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | >>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | >>> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 1:09 PM | >>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sky Plus | >>> | >>>| >>>> The problem is, as I have written in a previous message, the remote| >>>> record | >>>> feature on the website is busted for screen reader users. So I cannot| >>>> remote record without texting. Watch this space to see if I get a| >>>> response | >>>> in the next week. | >>>> -----Original Message-----| >>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access- uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On| >>>> Behalf | >>>> Of | >>>> Terry Clasper | >>>> Sent: 17 November 2008 10:50 | >>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | >>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sky Plus | >>>> | >>>> Thing is though that if you dont' want ot use the box directly | >>>> recording| >>>> stuff is very accessible either via sky.com and remote record or via| >>>> texting. | >>>> Personally I use a mix of Remote4 Record and Manual Record, the | >>>> advantage | >> | >>>> of| >>>> manual record being that you can specify the actual channel, so for| >>>> example | >>>> if I want ITV AD I can tell it to record from 993.| >>>> I must say I was reluctant at first to get the box but now taht Ihave | >>>> I | >>>> can | >>>> enjoy programs that I used to watch when I had the time. | >>>> | >>>> | >>>> | >>>> ----- Original Message ----- | >>>> From: "Darran Ross" <darran.ross@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | >>>> To: "Access-UK" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | >>>> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 5:53 PM | >>>> Subject: [access-uk] Sky Plus | >>>> | >>>>| >>>>>I agree 100% with Terry's sentiments. The Plus box is a crackin'piece | >>>>>of| >>>>> kit and I'd be lost without it, but the fact still remains that itis | >>>>> less| >>>>> than customer friendly from this lists point of view. Although I'll | >>>>> certainly put up with its little inaccessible ways as the over all| >>>>> product | >>>>> is a winner for me! | >>>>> | >>>>> Darran | >>>>> | >>>>>| >>>>> "It is not his creed nor his nationality which counts - it's the man| >>>>> himself." 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