[access-uk] Re: Sirecogniser dealer
- From: "Ankers, Dave (UK)" <Dave.Ankers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 08:29:33 -0000
Ray,
I fully agree with you concerning human assistance. I requested that social
services provide me with a personal assistant. I did all the research and
found just the one I wanted. Could read me the paper, clean the house and my
clothes', guide me around and read time tables and menus etc, just wonderful!
sized around 6 foot tall, blonde, 36 24 36 and made in Sweden.
Social services declined, they just don't give a damn about us blind folk!
So I've contacted Mr Honest, and he could only find cheap imports from China
and Poland. You get what you pay for! I've looked in the R N I B catalogue,
and couldn't find any, they are definitely missing a good business opportunity.
Dave
Jackie, you do raise a very pertinent question here as to how you arrive at
deciding whether the present portable recognition software etc is worth it.
I'll own up and say that I'm very fortunate as of now in not really needing it,
but I do hate the injustice of the pricing and the bleeding dry of people who
do need it. Still what is 'need'? is it that difficult when out and about to
get things like menus read? Are their other situations where you'd see
yourself time and time again using this sort of aid? Maybe you want to know
where the loo is, but could you wave one of these things around for it to find
it for you?
How many instances do you find where no one's about to help?
How about living at home? What would this sort of portable device offer over
and above a scanner with OCR software? Sure a few might chip in and spell this
out. My reason for asking is that surely how much and when you'd use it must
decide whether its a good or rational use of money that maybe could be used for
other things.
I'd say simply sit back and ask yourself these questions and ask yourself, is
it worth it to me now, at this price level? The only way suppliers are going
to get the message about over pricing is if you decline to throw so much money
their way and refuse to be a milch cow.
That indeed is a choice some will end up making.
Raises interesting questions about the nature of independence too and whether
that means doing everything unaided by human intervvention.
Personally I'd value good human assistance in many instances while out doing
things, and this simply isn't offered me.
Cheers,
Ray.
From Ray
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-----Original Message-----
Jackie Cairns
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sirecogniser dealer
Hi Andy
That is the difficulty with buying anything that is going to bleed you dry.
You either jump in and then think: "shit I should have waited," or aim to buy
later, only to be confronted with something bigger, better and even more costly.
It's a very tricky one, a subject that will rage forever with no definitive
answer to be had I'm afraid.
If you don't have access to work, it's a case of either doing the charity
rounds, living like a recluse until you can afford something - by which time
the next best thing is out there - or maybe do the Lottery or something (smile).
Jackie
Email: cairnsplace@xxxxxxx
Skype Name: Cairnsplace
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andy Collins" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 5:51 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sirecogniser dealer
> Ah! Jackie, I'm not surprised Steve omited to answer this in his
replies
> about this gadget <smile> not his fault no doubt, but too expensive
to
> justify, and the thing is, with lots of this tech stuff, it never
really
> gives value for money, as it will be superseeded in a couple of
years.
> It's
> tricky as I have always said, to work out when to buy expensive kit,
and
> how
> long to hold out for something better, being inconvenienced in the
mean
> time!
>
> For many, with all this stuff being so expensive, they will only be
able
> to
> aford to buy once, if at all, so I understand the tendency to hold
off
> buying in favour of an upgraded or superior device later down the
line -
>
> Andy
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jackie Cairns" <cairnsplace@xxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 5:36 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sirecogniser dealer
>
>
> |I believe Andy that it is £2,700 with training, which is
recommended.
> But
> | if you insist on going it alone, it is £2,500.
> |
> | Jackie
> |
> | Email: cairnsplace@xxxxxxx
> | Skype Name: Cairnsplace
> | ----- Original Message -----
> | From: "Andy Collins" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> | To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> | Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 4:57 PM
> | Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sirecogniser dealer
> |
> |
> | > Mark - can you post that link please?
> | >
> | > Also, has anybody yet gained an idea of the cost of this
device -
> Steve
> | > hasn't come back on this one! -
> | >
> | > Andy
> | > ----- Original Message -----
> | > From: "Mark Threadgold" <m.j.threadgold@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> | > To: "accessuk list" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> | > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 4:23 PM
> | > Subject: [access-uk] Sirecogniser dealer
> | >
> | >
> | > |i all.
> | > |
> | > | I found a review of the sirecogniser by Brian Hartgen done at
sight
> | > village.
> | > |
> | > |
> | > | It states the uk distributors are Micro Link PC.
> | > |
> | > | This is incorrect. I contacted Micro Link PC and they never
got
> further
> | > | than the initial talks with the manufacturers at sight
village.
> | > |
> | > | Don't know who is the distributer, bight help someone else
avoid
> | > contacting
> | > | the wrong people.
> | > |
> | > | Mark Threadgold
> | > |
> | > | The probability of being watched is directly proportional to
the
> | > stupidity
> | > | of your act...
> | > |
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