Dead right Ray. Richard Godfrey-McKay Tel: (01738) 445 880 Mobile: (07791) 452 593 Please read this special message My partner, Cindy, is losing weight and at the same time, raising money for RNIB. Please go to www.justgiving.com/slimmercindy to make a generous donation to RNIB and keep her healthy and motivated to lose even more weight.42Lb to date! Thanks for reading this message. Richard -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ray's Home Sent: 05 February 2008 22:40 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sirecogniser dealer Jackie, you do raise a very pertinent question here as to how you arrive at deciding whether the present portable recognition software etc is worth it. I'll own up and say that I'm very fortunate as of now in not really needing it, but I do hate the injustice of the pricing and the bleeding dry of people who do need it. Still what is 'need'? is it that difficult when out and about to get things like menus read? Are their other situations where you'd see yourself time and time again using this sort of aid? Maybe you want to know where the loo is, but could you wave one of these things around for it to find it for you? How many instances do you find where no one's about to help? How about living at home? What would this sort of portable device offer over and above a scanner with OCR software? Sure a few might chip in and spell this out. My reason for asking is that surely how much and when you'd use it must decide whether its a good or rational use of money that maybe could be used for other things. I'd say simply sit back and ask yourself these questions and ask yourself, is it worth it to me now, at this price level? The only way suppliers are going to get the message about over pricing is if you decline to throw so much money their way and refuse to be a milch cow. That indeed is a choice some will end up making. Raises interesting questions about the nature of independence too and whether that means doing everything unaided by human intervvention. Personally I'd value good human assistance in many instances while out doing things, and this simply isn't offered me. Cheers, Ray. From Ray I can be contacted off-list at: mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- Jackie Cairns Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sirecogniser dealer Hi Andy That is the difficulty with buying anything that is going to bleed you dry. You either jump in and then think: "shit I should have waited," or aim to buy later, only to be confronted with something bigger, better and even more costly. It's a very tricky one, a subject that will rage forever with no definitive answer to be had I'm afraid. If you don't have access to work, it's a case of either doing the charity rounds, living like a recluse until you can afford something - by which time the next best thing is out there - or maybe do the Lottery or something (smile). Jackie Email: cairnsplace@xxxxxxx Skype Name: Cairnsplace ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Collins" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 5:51 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sirecogniser dealer > Ah! Jackie, I'm not surprised Steve omited to answer this in his replies > about this gadget <smile> not his fault no doubt, but too expensive to > justify, and the thing is, with lots of this tech stuff, it never really > gives value for money, as it will be superseeded in a couple of years. > It's > tricky as I have always said, to work out when to buy expensive kit, and > how > long to hold out for something better, being inconvenienced in the mean > time! > > For many, with all this stuff being so expensive, they will only be able > to > aford to buy once, if at all, so I understand the tendency to hold off > buying in favour of an upgraded or superior device later down the line - > > Andy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jackie Cairns" <cairnsplace@xxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 5:36 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sirecogniser dealer > > > |I believe Andy that it is £2,700 with training, which is recommended. > But > | if you insist on going it alone, it is £2,500. > | > | Jackie > | > | Email: cairnsplace@xxxxxxx > | Skype Name: Cairnsplace > | ----- Original Message ----- > | From: "Andy Collins" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > | To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > | Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 4:57 PM > | Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sirecogniser dealer > | > | > | > Mark - can you post that link please? > | > > | > Also, has anybody yet gained an idea of the cost of this device - > Steve > | > hasn't come back on this one! - > | > > | > Andy > | > ----- Original Message ----- > | > From: "Mark Threadgold" <m.j.threadgold@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > | > To: "accessuk list" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > | > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 4:23 PM > | > Subject: [access-uk] Sirecogniser dealer > | > > | > > | > |i all. > | > | > | > | I found a review of the sirecogniser by Brian Hartgen done at sight > | > village. > | > | > | > | > | > | It states the uk distributors are Micro Link PC. > | > | > | > | This is incorrect. I contacted Micro Link PC and they never got > further > | > | than the initial talks with the manufacturers at sight village. > | > | > | > | Don't know who is the distributer, bight help someone else avoid > | > contacting > | > | the wrong people. > | > | > | > | Mark Threadgold > | > | > | > | The probability of being watched is directly proportional to the > | > stupidity > | > | of your act... > | > | ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq __________ NOD32 2851 (20080205) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq