Steve, Will this wap access work on the 9210I communicator? and is there any information on possible costs to upgrade to it? Yusuf ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 12:21 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sight Village this year? > Hi. > > Just to add to Ray's excellent summing up, we were demonstrating two firsts= > =20 > for us this year. Talks with WAP access, so that one can browse the=20 > Internet, coming to a phone near you soon. Also, Talks using a commercial= > =20 > GPS package, which is only in its beginnings, but a really exciting product= > =20 > already, especially as the GPS receiver uses Bluetooth technology and is=20 > very small. Also, the phone downloads maps from a central server as it=20 > needs them, or should I say routes. This means that if you go seriously=20 > off track, the phone will simply re-calculate your route, without you=20 > asking it to. This of course, is optional, as you can turn auto-tracking=20 > on and off. > > I didn't like our exhibition space, as the table was above two steps, so=20 > the customers had to come to the bottom of the steps and look up at us, but= > =20 > there was more room for the exhibitors. > > Over all, it has been the best year ever for Computer Room Services. > > All the best > > At 11:09 16/07/2004, Ray's Home spake these words of wisdom > >Hi Andrew. > > > >Trust the new job is going OK. I am surprised that no one as yet seems to > >have weighed in with their thought on Sight Village, and I'll only give= > you > >a few impressions here. > > > >The venue. If I had to come down for or against, I'd say, marginally, its > >an improvement on QAC. For me the main downside of the layout of the > >exhibition was that the main hall, or halls, were next door to one another > >and there was a lot of noise spill-over which made speech products very= > hard > >to hear. Really what is needed is for exhibitors with speech/hardware > >products to have screened off areas, while those displaying mainly > >information and quieter products could be together in a larger area. > > > >The whole thing was more compact though, even though it was spread over > >three levels if you include the mezomine area. Seminar rooms were good > >though. > > > >Speaking of seminars, GW Micro's presentation was a little lack-lustre. = > Dan > >Weirich hammered home the stability advantage with W-E and someone got a > >baseball cap for recognizing that, but I thought he could have= > demonstrated > >the private beta there, as well as downstairs. I could also be wrong= > here, > >but he didn't seem to make anything of the fact that a remote computer > >running Window-Eyes could be accessed with a machine that (doesn't) have > >Window-Eyes on it. No, I do not think I have got this wrong, for as far= > as > >I know, you can access W-E with a thin client if it has sound attached. > >Someone put me right if I am wrong on this, please. > > > >On the portable magnifier front, I found the 'tin can' cameras= > demonstrated > >by New Vision quite acceptable for the price and they were very portable. > >The idea is you hook up to a SCART on a TV, or via a box to a computer > >monitor where you can switch between the two images. The option including= > a > >small LCD display - which also might be a TV, was selling for =A3550.00. = > I'l > >post more on that if anyone is interested. > > > >In the crazy, 'you must be joking' class, we had Professional vision > >demonstrating an elegant camera on stand to plug into a laptop along with > >software for screen splitting. That will be =A33,000 sir. Not bluddy= > likely. > >Think it was from a German firm called Steller, who were also there. > > > >Before leaving the subject of CCTV, I was interested in the device Andrew > >mentioned in his post, and would be interested in a critical review of it, > >if you are still reading this Andrew, (smile). > > > >Braille products. I was interested in the Braillino which seemed a very > >neat and sturdy device. Though its a Braille input and notetaking device, > >it has no inbuilt speech, but that's not a problem if you are using with a > >laptop with speech on board. Sure Steve will come in on improvements, but > >of course you can use it with a mobile. Think it comes from Handitech who > >may be associated with the software that makes mobiles talk. > > > >I saw the Braillenote PK, and very nice and solid it was too. As well as > >being a bit heavy on the pocket - well aren't they always! - you would= > need > >a pretty deep and stirdy pocket to put it in. I didn't see Mr. Mozan,= > which > >was a bit of a disappointment. Whatever you think of Pulsedata, and not= > all > >opinions are flattering to them, I must say they always have a very > >professional looking stand and display, and Pedro Pulson was out there on > >reception handing out leaflets with Braille and Print summarizing there > >products. Didn't see anyone else doing that. It does no harm at all, in= > my > >view, to approach blind people in a civilized way to tell what they have= > on > >show, after all, we can not see what there is until we are told. > > > >The only other product that comes to mind is the Index embossers. These > >have been upgraded to include USB and networkablility. Also, they are > >moving towards being able to use several embossers in tandom, so that if > >customers needs exspand, then they can just add another embosser in > >parallel. Waht a noise! Of course they are introducing a cabinet that > >will hold four embossers and hopefully forstall those claims for loss of > >hearing. > > > >No doubt some of you will have heard George on In touch commenting on the > >cost of being at SV now. To my mind, the guy from QAC didn't really put= > up > >any credible defence, other than its a more exspensive venue to hire. It > >was very noticable how cramped the space for some exhibitors was, and I= > have > >alreay already mentioned the noise spill problem. All this for a more= > than > >100% price hike to exhibitors? Well, what do you folk think? You might > >also ponder whether 'charities' should be asking themselves whether they= > are > >in fact a charity or a business. Are you listening, RNIB? Oh, sorry, I= > am > >not a member. Was forgetting. How silly of me. > > > >Se you at Share the Vision, (smile). > > > >Ray. > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 9:10 PM > >Subject: [access-uk] Sight Village this year? > > > > > >Hi, > > > >I normally try and get to Sight Village and do a summing up on this list > >for people who could not be there, but could someone do it for me this > >year as I was at work all day? > > > >Anything interesting? Each year I go thinking there won't be much > >there, but there is always one piece of equipment which really is worth > >looking at. The two pieces for me this year have been the Pacmate from > >Freedom Scientific, and the Quick Look from Ash technologies. Access to > >work got me both pieces whilst starting work, and while the Pacmate is > >good as expected, I never thought that an electronic magnifier would > >actually benefit me the way it has done! The down side to the magnifier > >is now I have to fax/photocopy a lot of documents, as I can see the > >relevant display! > > > >Thanks, > >Andrew. > >** Going on holiday and want to halt messages? Send a message to:- > >** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >** and in the Subject line type > >** vacation ## d > >** where ## is the number of days followed by d for days. > >** For other things like digest mode, send a message, to > >** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > > > > >** Going on holiday and want to halt messages? 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