[access-uk] Re: Sight Village

  • From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:21:17 +0100

Hi Carol,

We had a bottle with very small print at Sight Village.  It was a bath body
lotion and was read to about 80 percent accuracy.  It didn't read the full
title of the stuff, but with all the ingredients and info, you could easily
know what it was.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Carol Pearson
Sent: Tuesday 22 July 2008 18:03
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sight Village

OK.  I vote you both try the same items and we'll suggest them on list - 
perhaps 10 in all - and see what you come up with!

What about something which is produced in very small print, a Cola bottle or

something that has fancy writing and maybe a bus timetable which you could 
both try (one sending to the other).  I can't list exact items so hopefully 
someone can enlarge on this.

That's as far as my brain goes in this hot weather!

--
Carol
carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

On Monday, July 21, 2008 11:40 PM (UK time), access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx at 
access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx said:

> O.K. guys.
>
> As they say, "Put your money where your mouth is."
>
> We've had the battle of the screen readers.  Now we have
> something else to battle out.
>
> I know who my money's on.
>
> The book's open guys!
>
> Darren - you're the betting man - wanna take it on?
>
> George.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
> Sent: 21 July 2008 21:44
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sight Village
>
> Hi Jackie,
>
> Just one comment, I too can take the mini PC to the kitchen.
> You haven't seen it yet, even now, though I have given you
> the offer of demos <Smile>.
> I still reckon the battle of the readers would be fun.
>
> All the best
>
> STeve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie Cairns
> Sent: Monday 21 July 2008 08:45
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sight Village
>
> Hi Steve
>
> I've used it for lots of different things.  I've got names
> off medication packets to differentiate them, and whether
> I'm opening beans or spaghetti! I agree some of it is tricky
> to do, but it isn't impossible if you are on your own and
> need the information.  And Steve me boy, it also means I can
> take the phone into my kitchen and raid the cupboards, not
> have to cart the produce to the scanner!!!! (smile).
>
> Jackie Cairns
>
> Braille Support Adviser
>
> Email: Jackie.Cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Sight and Sound Technology Ltd
>
> Welton House North Wing
>
> Summerhouse Road
>
> Moulton Park
>
> Northampton
>
> NN3 6WD
>
> Telephone: 0845 6347979
>
> or
>
> Telephone: 01604 798070
>
> Fax: 01604 798090
>
> Web: www.sightandsound.co.uk
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
> Sent: 20 July 2008 23:29
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sight Village
>
> Hi Jackie,
>
> But will K Reader read round corners, like cylinders,
> bottles, etc?  I am genuinely interested, since all I have
> read about it says that it is designed to read text from
> paper rather than objects.
>
> All the best
>
> Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie Cairns
> Sent: Sunday 20 July 2008 21:27
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sight Village
>
> Hi Steve
>
> What you do with K-Reader is scan the page again.  I go by
> the degrees relative to the page when I scan.  The lower the
> number, usually the better I've done in taking a picture.
> You can use the View Report Field, but personally I just
> shoot and shoot again if necessary.  I think it's absolutely
> fab to be able to have something so portable in my pocket.
> TALKS
>
> on the phone, reading software, GPS, MP3 player with full
> track access?
> Blimey it's awesome!! Never having seen the SiRecogniser, I
> wouldn't doubt you for a single minute, but it has a lot of
> clobber to it that is cumbersome at the moment.  As you say,
> "at the moment".
>
> Jackie
>
> Email: cairnsplace@xxxxxxx
> Skype Name: Cairnsplace
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 6:58 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sight Village
>
>
>> Hi Orhan,
>>
>> Basically, to be fair, the main difference is that you
> have far more
>> control of the camera with SiRecognizer.  For example, if
> you are
>> scanning a tin and you don't get good results, you can
> invert the
>> video, you can tell Recognizer that you are scanning something
>> cylindrical, and there are all kinds of pre-filters you
> can try to get
>> better results.  K-Reader is a kind of snap it and see solution.  It
>> works well, but if you don't get a good scan, you don't
> have much
>> control to improve on it.
>>
>> I am sure Jackie will correct me about that if I am wrong, but there
>> are nine pre-filter steps you can go through with
> Recognizer to
>> improve the results, and it has three built-in scanning engines,
>> which is why it is not on a phone yet.  Too much grunt on the
>> processor would be required.
>> Recognizer is undoubtedly the best reading solution for objects out
>> there, but it is certainly not as portable.
>>
>> All the best
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf Of orhan deniz
>> Sent: Saturday 19 July 2008 10:15
>> To: Steve Nutt
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sight Village
>>
>> Hi Steve,
>> What is the difference of this thing compared to the KNFB reader?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Orhan.
>> --
>> Orhan Deniz.
>> E-mail:
>> orhan.deniz63@xxxxxxxxx
>> MSN/Windows Live ID:
>> orhan1793@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Skype:
>> orhan.deniz63
>> Blog:
>> http://worldandother.wordpress.com
>> Twitter:
>> http://www.twitter.com/kvp2008
>> Last.fm! Profile:
>> http://last.fm/user/orhandeniz1993
>> On Friday, 18 July 2008 8:16:24 PM, Steve Nutt Wrote:
>>> Hi Jackie,
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Course, you didn?t see the most interesting product, SiRecognizer
>>> <Smile>.
>>> It?s like K Reader, but it works <Smile>.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> All the best
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Steve
>>
>>>
>>
>>>   _____
>>
>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>> Behalf
>> Of
>>> Jackie Cairns
>>> Sent: Friday 18 July 2008 07:44
>>> To: Access UK Mailing List
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Sight Village
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Hi All
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Can I just thank all those who came to say hello at Sight Village
>>> this
>> week.
>>> It was lovely to put voices to some very familiar names on the
>>> list.
>>>
>>
>>> I didn't get much of a chance to wander around because of strutting
>>> my
>> stuff
>>> on the Sight and Sound stand, but I did have enough time
> to pop over
>>> to
>> the
>>> Cobolt stand, and look at their new ITell gadget.  For anyone who
>>> doesn't know about this, it is a small device that plugs into the
>>> bottom of an
>> Ipod
>>> that enables us mortals with little or no sight to use the Ipod
>>> with speech. I thought this was a really interesting gadget.  It
> doesn't work on
>>> either the Shuffle or Itouch, but all the other models
> seem to
>>> support it.  The only thing that concerns me, however, is how one
>>> would transfer material from their PC to the Ipod if
> Itunes software
>>> isn't accessible.  Perhaps
>> some
>>> who do this already would like to elaborate as it might potentially
>>> be a stumbling block.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> The ITell retails at £59.95 I believe, but I thought it
> was the most
>>> interesting gadget other than the K-Reader phone, of course!
>>> (smile).
>>>
>>
>>> Anyone else see anything interesting and "different" this year?
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Jackie
>>
>>
>>> Email: cairnsplace@xxxxxxx
>>> Skype Name: Cairnsplace
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