Hi Jackie Do you happen to know Martin Griffiths, and Jackie Hall (both at Humanware) are either of them blind, and if no do they Both know Braille? At the moment I think Martin will be be my trainer for The Braille note DBC package. Lucy Naismith did a demonstration here but that wasn't Very successful, so Alan Davis came on another visit and he was Great with his communication skills. I was very impressed he even knows deafblind manual so there was No need for an interpreter to assist. Trying to keep on topic *smiles* do you thing there is a need For some kind of formal qualification for trainers. We don't let teachers in to a class rooms unless they Have the relevant degree pass, but it seems anyone can Can call themselves I.T trainer, or even a Jaws trainer. A lot of money is paid out for training, and surely We need to make sure those that t rain us, have the Right skills to do it. Regards, Derek ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq