Oh come on guys, I have had braille displays set up at exhibitions and the person has not been able to read grade 2 braille, isn't it about the demonstrator knowning his equipment so that he knows what to do to change from grade 1, grade two and computer braille etc. I am the person who wants to read the display and I have no hesitation in saying if I cannot read it or please put it to grade 2 braille. Again I have over the telephone or remotely had my screen reader software adjusted so that I could read the grade 2 braille. I was educated from age 13 upwards at a school for the blind and my teacher did not even know which way up to put a braille page. She was not teaching me braillle but other subjects and she did not see the need to learn braille and I certainly did not see any need why she should. I got my braille education from someone who knew braille and these IT companies are not claiming to be braillists nor are they teaching braille though of course they do teach/instruct in the use of the equipment. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek Hornby" <derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 4:18 PM Subject: [access-uk] Sales and support staff's knowledage of braille
Hi Jackie I have changed subject line a I think there is room for a wider Debate on some issues here. I understand all you are saying and I was surprised nobody can read Grade 2 Braille. But then just a sec, maybe not surprised! Few weeks ago I had a demonstration by Humanware of a new Package aimed at the deafblind. They call is DBC I think Stands for deafblind communicator. Anyway the lady that gave me the demonstration didn't seem to know Braille! And this caused some confusion! So after that failed demonstration Alan Davis came to me, Not too sure if he knows Braille, but he certainly was far better At explaining what he was showing me. I am now told the trainer will be a guy called Martin (I forget his surname) works for Humanware in UK. A don't think a sighted driver would be happy for a car Salesman to be a non driver, so to a point I agree There is a need for those that sell Braille displays, to know Both grade 1 and 2 Braille. I do not accept the person must be blind, because there are Many sighted people out there that know Braille very well. Regards, Derek ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq
** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq