Yes thanks Derek and brill to you and all you do. You are indeed an example to all of us. All very well us moaning on but I know only too well when I go out with my guide dog, how important hearing is and when there is very loud noise I will avoid that area and go a different route. I refer to very loud drills which affect my orientation and I am sure that of others too. I do not have any hearing loss but there must be something to it, us relying on hearing for orientation too. Now I am talking like those patronising sighted people who make reference to the fact that as blind people we do of course have fantastic hearing which is utter rubbish. One thing I do know is that I am being subjected to very loud fireworks tonight but interestingly it is not bothering Neela my guide dog at all.
Eleanor----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek Hornby" <derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 7:38 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sales and support staff's knowledage of braille
Hi Eleanor Well I am as deaf as door post! Cannot hear speech at all. So Braille is my only way to access text messages And typetalk. Are you aware of typetalk? It's a telephone relay service that makes it possible For deaf, deafblind, and speech impaired people to receive and make Telephone calls from anyone. Regards, Derek -----Original Message-----From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf OfEleanor Burke Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 6:46 PM To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sales and support staff's knowledage of brailleVery expensive bit of kit though Derek for Braille messages but I think thatperhaps yourself and Christine have hearing impairment too so of course braille is paramount.----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek Hornby" <derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 6:21 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sales and support staff's knowledage of brailleHi Christine No, I don't know Jackie, but having just Checked old emails I find it was Lucy Naismith that did my first Demonstration. I think she's sales manager for the North. Martin is training manager. Were you impressed with DBC I love the idea of being abel to Send and receive text messages in Braille. Regards, Derek -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Christine Weetman Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 4:43 PM To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sales and support staff's knowledage of braille Hi Derek, wow, I've got the DBC from HumanWare and am due a training day with Jackie Hall...I do hope this isn't the lady who can't read braille? Ido understand that Martin Griffiths is a braille user as he was originallycoming to train me, but unfortunately became unwell...Maybe Stupidly in panic, I asked for a female as I'm no use at listening to a deeper male voice and wondered why I'd ever agreed a male for a whole day training, sureit would have been a huge strain on me--but now, I'm wondering if I've letgo of a Really experienced person? I hope you or someone can reassure me I've done the right thing for me? Regards, Christine.----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek Hornby" <derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 4:18 PM Subject: [access-uk] Sales and support staff's knowledage of brailleHi Jackie I have changed subject line a I think there is room for a wider Debate on some issues here. I understand all you are saying and I was surprised nobody can read Grade 2 Braille. But then just a sec, maybe not surprised! Few weeks ago I had a demonstration by Humanware of a new Package aimed at the deafblind. They call is DBC I think Stands for deafblind communicator. Anyway the lady that gave me the demonstration didn't seem to know Braille! And this caused some confusion! So after that failed demonstration Alan Davis came to me, Not too sure if he knows Braille, but he certainly was far better At explaining what he was showing me. I am now told the trainer will be a guy called Martin (I forget his surname) works for Humanware in UK. A don't think a sighted driver would be happy for a car Salesman to be a non driver, so to a point I agree There is a need for those that sell Braille displays, to know Both grade 1 and 2 Braille. I do not accept the person must be blind, because there are Many sighted people out there that know Braille very well. 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