[access-uk] Re: Request regarding DSA

Hi Barry, I note you address your comments to Irene but that my e-mail is below 
your comments.  I am Eleanor, not Irene.

The Open University permit me to have non-medical helper, a person of my choice 
though I do accept that if I did not have someone to nominate, the university 
would nominate someone.  I am also aware that if the university did nominate 
someone that person would be paid a lot more than my chosen person who is paid 
only £8 per hour.

Eleanor
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Barry G 
  To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 8:20 PM
  Subject: [access-uk] Re: Request regarding DSA


  Hi Irene, I obviously don't know, but I would assume that's an arrangement 
with an individual rather than an organisation.  

  Most campus-based universities have their own ancilliary learning support 
workers such as note-takers, readers, library support workers, as well as other 
roles such as mental health mentors, specialist assistive ICT trainers, 
specialist study skills tutors etc., but a number use one of the agencies, as 
do the OU.  

  I do assessments for OU students in the South West region and the OU's 
preferred supplier of "non medical helper" support is Randstad, although the 
assessor can specify another supplier if he/she feels it is appropriate, be 
that an organisation or an individual.  You can check out the rates with a bit 
of digging on the sites of Randstad, Clear Links, Claro Learning etc.

  You might be interested to see that a specialist dyslexia study skills tutor 
and a mental health mentor will be charged to the funding authority at anything 
between £50 and £78 per hour, although that's not what the person carrying out 
the actual work gets paid...  My figures for the cost were based on the cost I 
have to factor in to my DSA needs assessment reports.

  All the best,
  Barry G
        ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Eleanor Burke 
    To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 6:58 PM
    Subject: [access-uk] Re: Request regarding DSA


    I read Barry G's e-mail response to Mike and note the fee he states for a 
Reader.  I have been a student at the Open University for some years now and my 
Reader is paid the sum of eight pounds per hour!!!  I also note that the fee 
never increased over the years!!!!

    Eleanor
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Barry G 
      To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 5:14 PM
      Subject: [access-uk] Re: Request regarding DSA


      Hi Mike, I'm a DSA assessor at Southampton University's Wessex Needs 
Assessment Centre and have recommended this item in the past, but that was 
before SFE took over the world.  Your course website or handbook should give 
some sort of breakdown of the hours expected for private study and you can cite 
that in your case, and the assignment marking schemes include an element for 
evidence of wider reading than the handouts and the core booklist, again an 
element for your case - bearing in mind that you would be "placed at a 
significant disadvantage against your peers" if denied access to private study 
material - ultimately, if your assignment marks are lower, so will your degree 
classification.

      You might also like to argue that the alternative is to have a sighted 
support worker to describe material to you at a cost of somewhere between £15 
and 25 per hour to SFE - if you cost that out at say 2 hours/week over  a 
30-week academic year x the 3 or four years of[ your course and then add the 
other two arguments...

      As for the argument that the university should do all that is reasonable 
to put material in accessible format, that is certainly true, but they can't 
put the entire library in that format unfortunately, and you need to be able to 
follow ideas and avenues as your research develops, waiting for someone to 
transcribe/transform it destroys your freedom to follow those thoughts, and 
they aren't that expensive in the scheme of things.  

      The main weakness in your case would be if you have been provided with 
some other piece of kit that could be argued to be capable of representing 
graphical information.  My final point would be, your DSA needs assessor should 
be making this case to SFE for you if they are satisfied that you need the kit!

      All the best,
      Barry G

        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Mike Moore 
        To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 4:16 PM
        Subject: [access-uk] Request regarding DSA


        Hello,

        I hope this is within the boundary's of the list:

        I am requesting a Zychem fuser to give tactile representations of 
graphs, which I create. DSA are saying that it does not fall within their 
requirements of supply, and it is the responsibility of the University to 
provide all class material and handouts in a format I can access.

        My argument is that this is for my independant work at home and has in 
effect nothing to do with the University's duty to provide other materials.

        Can anyone advise please?

        Thanks,

        Mike


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