They mean Freeview so they should say Freeview. Digital television is available in my area. Freeview isn't. It is important to use the terms properly whatever other people might mean by them. If they used the terms properly, there would be no confusion. Iain ----- Original Message ----- From: Matthew Allbones To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 5:02 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB's Freeview Set Top Boxes Hi I think the use of the word digital relating to TV is a little confusing. If you don't include the internet there 3 ways of receiving TV signals, satellite, cable and terrestrial (through an aerial). The satellite and cable service converted to a digital signal some time ago, previously they all used analogue transmission systems. The terrestrial service is what is now referred to as Freeview as this is how been branded. When referring to 'digital' TV most people are referring to the freeview service i.e. the service that is received through TV aerials and require a digital decoder (freeview or set top box). I am aware that this may appear like pedantry, or a statement of the stunningly obvious, but for anyone on the list who doesn't understand this there are all sorts of myths being built up around having to buy new TV sets. Sorry if i have patronized anyone (sheepish grin). Matt. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joan Muir Sent: 14 February 2008 11:43 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB's Freeview Set Top Boxes Iain, I'm sure that in fact digital isn't available everywhere though of course maybe one day it will be. Best wishes, Joan. ----- Original Message ----- From: Iain Lackie To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 8:47 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB's Freeview Set Top Boxes I'm sure they must mean Freeview as audio description is already available on Sky and cable. Iain ----- Original Message ----- From: Jackie Cairns To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 8:29 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB's Freeview Set Top Boxes Hmmm. I thought when they meant digital, they were referring to Freeview, but perhaps not. God knows Iain. The article also claims the cheaper of the TV-Onics boxes is the cheapest Freeview device carrying AD on the market. So what about the Logik model, or did I really dream that? I'm not only confuzzled, I'm getting worried if I go to sleep and dream of Freeview boxes sold by RNIB and Currys (smiles). Jackie Email: cairnsplace@xxxxxxx Skype Name: Cairnsplace ----- Original Message ----- From: Iain Lackie To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 8:18 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB's Freeview Set Top Boxes Jackie I thought I'd have a look in the online shop but the shop seems to be closed or rather the website won't display. I note the article says, digital TV is not available in all areas.' I had always thought that digital TV was available in all areas and that it is Freeview which isn't available in all areas. It certainly isn't available where I live. Am I right or do they really mean digital TV? Iain ----- Original Message ----- From: Jackie Cairns To: Access UK Mailing List Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 7:59 PM Subject: [access-uk] RNIB's Freeview Set Top Boxes Hi Gang A few weeks ago, some members of this list were discussing a Logik Freeview box supporting Audio Description that they could purchase from Currys for £59.99. Then, more recently, I thought I read here that RNIB were selling this same box for a bit more than that, around £70 I thought I saw. Well, in the latest issue of RNIB's Access IT mag, they are advertising two Freeview boxes, both supporting AD. One is the TV-Onics MFR300 (product number TV02), costing £70.49. The other is the TV-Onics MDR300 (product number TV01), costing £82.24). The difference is that the more expensive of the two gives an audible bleep when you change channels, and a double audible bleep when AD is available. Now for my question. Is the Logik Freeview box also being sold by RNIB, or did I get it wrong, and the above devices from TV-Onics are additional Freeview products to their range? I would happily ring Customer Services, but they don't always know the latest information, as they are often quick to point out. Jackie Email: cairnsplace@xxxxxxx Skype Name: Cairnsplace __________ NOD32 2874 (20080214) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com