[access-uk] Re: RNIB
- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:35:15 -0000
Hi Karl,
I don't think I did anything, I think we all gave up going round circles
<Smile>.
All the best
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Karl Proud
Sent: Monday 23 November 2009 00:14
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB
How do you do that Steve?
I make the same point a couple of days before and it just gets ignored; you
point it out and everyone stops talking.
It's a damn fine gift you've got.
Yoo hoo hoo, I wanna be like yoo hoo hoo!
All the flippin best.
Karl
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 7:18 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB
Hi John,
I give up. Non-profit doesn't mean you can't make profit, it simply means
that you must plough it back into the organisation, which to my knowledge,
the RNIB do.
All the best
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
john coley
Sent: Saturday 21 November 2009 13:06
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB
Steve, I'm referring to products available from other suppliers, not braille
books. Check, for instance, the RNIB price on JFW.
John.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 12:44 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB
> Hi John,
>
> Depends how you define profit.
>
> In the example that Iain gave, if a book costs more to produce than a
> print
> book, how are they making profit, by selling stuff at the same price? If
> anything, they are making a loss. Do the math. Just because it costs the
> same, doesn't mean a company or charity is making profit.
>
> All the best
>
> Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of
> john coley
> Sent: Friday 20 November 2009 19:22
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB
>
> They shouldn't in that case claim to be a non profit organisation. The
> fact
> that you agree with it is immaterial. It is dishonest.
> John.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Iain Lackie" <ilackie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 6:46 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB
>
>
>> No, I am not shocked and I think it only right that RNIB should sell
>> goods
>
>> at the same price as other suppliers. We should remember that Selling is
>> only part of the work which RNIB does and even here there are many areas
>> of subsidy. If we take books for example, a book is genrally sold by RNIB
>> at the same price as the print version. However, the cost of producing
>> that book is much greater than the print. If we were to be charged the
>> same price for audio books as the general market price, I don't think
>> many
>
>> of us would be buying too many of them. Personally, I think there is too
>> much of the expecting to get things cheaper within the blind community.
>>
>> Iain
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "john coley" <johncoley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 6:03 PM
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [access-uk] RNIB
>>
>>>
>>> Hi everybody, I learnt something the other day that shocked me. It's
>>> something that affects many of us. The RNIB as a charity is supposed to
>>> be a non profit organisation.
>>> When I was researching prices of a product recently I found it strange
>>> that the RNIB charged the same as other suppliers. I took it up with a
>>> friend at the RNIB, who confirmed to me that yes, they do make the same
>>> profit as other suppliers, but given their status as a non profit
>>> organisation they're not allowed to call it profit, so call it
>>> contribution.
>>> Given that any financial gain made on sale of something is profit
>>> whatever they choose to call it it comes down to the same thing.
>>> It would be interesting to know how officially they reconcile being a
>>> non profit organisation with their operating as a profit making one,
>>> that
>
>>> profit being made from those people they profess to be helping.
>>> John.
>>>
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