John,
All I say here is that I have never seen any version of Jaws quoted at a
different price. Whether it is price fixing or coincidence I do not know.
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From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf
Of john coley
Sent: 21 November 2009 14:17
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB
I hope that isn't the case. Price fixing, and collusion between companies
to
fix prices is in breach of EU competition law, see below.
John.
The law on price fixing
Competition law prohibits almost any attempt to fix prices - for example,
you cannot:
a.. Agree prices with your competitors;
b.. Share markets or limit production to raise prices, for example, if
two
contracts are put out to tender you can't agree that you'll bid for one
and
let your competitor bid for the other;
c.. Impose minimum prices on different distributors;
d.. Agree with your competitors what purchase price you will offer your
suppliers;
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Russell" <david.russell8@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 2:13 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB
Sight and Sound may not stipulate a price, but Freedom Scientific may
well
do. Either way, RNIB are no cheaper nor more expensive than anywhere
else.
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf
Of john coley
Sent: 21 November 2009 13:44
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB
Hi Ibrahim, are Sight And Sound forcing them to sell at full retail? The
RNIB buy it at trade price, not full retail.
John.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ibrahim Gucukoglu" <ibrahim_gucukoglu@xxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 1:18 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB
Hi Jon.
The reason the RNIB charge the same price on JFW as do all other
suppliers
is because of the simple fact that they have to buy it in from Sight And
Sound, the main UK distributor ffor Freedom Scientific products.
All the best, Ibrahim.
----- Original Message -----
From: "john coley" <johncoley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 1:05 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB
Steve, I'm referring to products available from other suppliers, not
braille books. Check, for instance, the RNIB price on JFW.
John.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 12:44 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB
Hi John,
Depends how you define profit.
In the example that Iain gave, if a book costs more to produce than a
print
book, how are they making profit, by selling stuff at the same price?
If
anything, they are making a loss. Do the math. Just because it costs
the
same, doesn't mean a company or charity is making profit.
All the best
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
Of
john coley
Sent: Friday 20 November 2009 19:22
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB
They shouldn't in that case claim to be a non profit organisation. The
fact
that you agree with it is immaterial. It is dishonest.
John.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Iain Lackie" <ilackie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 6:46 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB
No, I am not shocked and I think it only right that RNIB should sell
goods
at the same price as other suppliers. We should remember that Selling
is
only part of the work which RNIB does and even here there are many
areas
of subsidy. If we take books for example, a book is genrally sold by
RNIB
at the same price as the print version. However, the cost of
producing
that book is much greater than the print. If we were to be charged
the
same price for audio books as the general market price, I don't think
many
of us would be buying too many of them. Personally, I think there is
too
much of the expecting to get things cheaper within the blind
community.
Iain
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From: "john coley" <johncoley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 6:03 PM
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [access-uk] RNIB
Hi everybody, I learnt something the other day that shocked me. It's
something that affects many of us. The RNIB as a charity is supposed
to
be a non profit organisation.
When I was researching prices of a product recently I found it
strange
that the RNIB charged the same as other suppliers. I took it up with
a
friend at the RNIB, who confirmed to me that yes, they do make the
same
profit as other suppliers, but given their status as a non profit
organisation they're not allowed to call it profit, so call it
contribution.
Given that any financial gain made on sale of something is profit
whatever they choose to call it it comes down to the same thing.
It would be interesting to know how officially they reconcile being
a
non profit organisation with their operating as a profit making one,
that
profit being made from those people they profess to be helping.
John.
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