Hi Clive Have a look at the Vuictor reader stream, info can be found here: http://www.humanware.com/en-usa/products/blindness/dtb_players/compact_models/_details/id_201/victor_reader_stream_daisy_mp3__softpak.html Jack G Jack Goodfellow Access Technology Coordinator Greater Manchester Action Team Action for Blind People Tel: 0161 787 9252 -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie Cairns Sent: 08 November 2010 13:31 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Portable players Hi Clive I appreciate your frustrations and, to a very large extent, agree with them. I used to use an Iriver H340 which allowed you to simply copy and paste from one drive to another within Windows Explorer. I don't know if there are any cheaper brands on the market that will let you do that. As you say, all the Apple products require you to use iTunes, and the specialist devices will let you use Windows Explorer to copy and paste, but are expensive just for music. I thought the RNIB had one called the Vibe or something, but I've never seen it, know next to nothing about it, and think it is still expensive from what I hear. Perhaps the Zenstone users among you could help? Kind Regards, Jackie Cairns J&M Work-Ability jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.work-ability.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Clive.Lever@xxxxxxxxxxx Sent: 08 November 2010 13:23 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Portable players Hi all, I'm now beginning to think that the Apple ITunes programme and IPods may not be for me. I can't run to a Victor player upwards of £200 at present. Are there any portable players out there which : are Easy for a VI person to use; don't rely on syncing from within complex computer programmes but instead let you copy and paste mp3 files from your computer to your portable device; have at least 4gb storage capacity, or play music stored on SD cards. I've heard it said that all portable players need you to sync from your computer through ITunes, Windows Media Player or whatever. I've heard other people say that this is nonsense. #so, does the device I want actually exist? Thanks, Clive Clive Lever Diversity Advisor 01622 221163 (extension 7000 1163) Room 1.15, Sessions House, County Hall, Maidstone, ME14 1XQ. Diversity is a strength and we will value and harness difference for the benefit of all service users, the individual and KCC. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.864 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3243 - Release Date: 11/07/10 19:34:00 ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq Action for Blind People is an expert national organisation, ensuring blind and partially sighted people get practical support in all aspects of their lives. In April 2009 Action for Blind People became part of RNIB Group, in an innovative partnership combining regional service delivery across England. This partnership enables both organisations to share skills and deliver services in line with the UK Vision Strategy. For more information phone us through the RNIB Helpline on 0303 123 9999 or visit our fully accessible website. www.actionforblindpeople.org.uk Company Registration no: (England and Wales 26688) Registered Charity no: 205913 (England and Wales) SC040050 (Scotland) P Save a tree. Don't print this email unless it's really necessary. This email is for the use of the intended recipient(s) only. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and then delete it. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not keep, use, disclose, copy or distribute this email without the author's prior permission. We have taken precautions to minimize the risk of transmitting software viruses, but we advise you to carry out your own virus checks on any attachment to this message. Action for Blind People cannot accept liability for any loss or damage caused by software viruses. ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq