Thanks :) I'l bare that in mind if i ever need to buy a new one - although, i do quite like A4 paper. TC Kind regards james On 3 Sep 2010, at 09:05, Jackie Cairns wrote: > Not on your life! I wouldn't have one gift wrapped. The new one has nothing > like the build quality of the old machine, the keys are smaller, it only > takes A4 paper, and I hate it! (smile). > > > Kind Regards, > > Jackie Cairns > J&M Work-Ability > > jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > www.work-ability.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > James AUSTIN > Sent: 02 September 2010 22:22 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Poor quality of equipment? > > Hi Jackie, > my Perkins? It's now 42 years of > age and as good as new. > > The Perkins is slightly different though - as it's mechanical. But yes, > those machines were definitely built to last. Mine is nearly twenty years > old and apart from a slight twisted backspace key - don't know what the real > name for it is it still works fine. . I wonder if the newish ones that the > RNIB are selling are as good? > > TC > James > On 2 Sep 2010, at 09:51, Jackie Cairns wrote: > >> Hi Mike et al >> >> I agree that the Cobolt tape-measure isn't great quality, nor the >> 12-minute memo recorder now being sold by RNIB. And there are >> probably other examples like that if I sat and thought about them long >> enough. But, in the main, I would say that most assistive technology >> equipment is pretty reliable and built for purpose. I've had my >> PowerBraille display for eight years, for instance, and it was >> second-hand when I got it. My metal Dymo gun has had years of use, >> yet still works well. And my Perkins? It's now 42 years of age and as > good as new. >> >> I do agree that some of the gimmicky sounds and silly announcements on >> these talking products patronise us, when a single audible beep to >> indicate the thing is on or off would suffice. >> >> >> Kind Regards, >> >> Jackie Cairns >> J&M Work-Ability >> >> jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> www.work-ability.co.uk >> -----Original Message----- >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >> Behalf Of Mike Moore >> Sent: 02 September 2010 09:29 >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Poor quality of equipment? >> >> James, >> >> This is my point; all of the research and development....... >> who do they ask when they prototype items? >> >> It is the approach that VI people are somewhat clueless and need >> everything explained, or notified with a fanfare when they are being >> presented with information.... Such as Jackie mentioned about the >> microwave: door open, door closed, well duh! or the fanfare when you are > being told the time etc. >> >> Regarding build quality, the talking tape- it is nearly impossible to >> remove the battery at times and the belt clip is insuficient to hold >> the tape on your belt. The weight of the tape with battery is too much >> and pulls the tape off your belt, and if it falls there is a wire >> connected onto the PCB which breaks off and you lose the speech. >> >> Is there any help groups for rage against the machines? >> >> Mike >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "James AUSTIN" <james.austin1984@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 10:08 PM >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Poor quality of equipment? >> >> >>> Hi Steve, >>> >>> Although i cannot speak to your being able to measure in millimetres >>> as i do not have a talking tape measure,, in general, the >>> cheap-feeling and poor quality builds - at least in my experience do >>> not warrant the cost that Blindness-specific devices are sold at. >>> >>> TC >>> James >>> On 1 Sep 2010, at 11:21, Steve Nutt wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Lynn, >>>> >>>> You hit the nail on the head. Centimeters are fine, but you can't >>>> measure to the nearest milimeter, as you can with the talking >>>> variety. >>>> >>>> All the best >>>> >>>> Steve >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of >Lyn & Twinny >>>> Sent: Tuesday 31 August 2010 10:21 >>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Poor quality of equipment? >>>> >>>> I don't agree with you about the Braille tape measure not being >>>> accurate enough. Not sure what they are like in the UK but in >>>> france, the braille tape measures are very accurate because each >>>> centimeter is represented by a dot and lots of blind people round >>>> here use this one rather than a tape measure and I know quite a few >>>> blind handy people. >>>> >>>> Lyn & Twinny >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Mike Moore" <mikeis@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 10:48 AM >>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Poor quality of equipment? >>>> >>>> >>>>> Steve & David, >>>>> >>>>> I shall subscribe; as I am also into a bit of motor/ATC >>>>> restoration! >>>>> >>>>> Perhaps state side is the place to source a lot of equipment if >>>>> possible? >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Mike >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "David W Wood" >>>>> <g3yxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 11:31 PM >>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Poor quality of equipment? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Very American and errs towards cars and U..S. gadgets which >>>>>> aren't available for the most part in this country. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> David W Wood >>>>>> >>>>>> GUILDFORD PHYSIOTHERAPY AND SPORTS CLINIC MATTHEWS HOUSE >>>>>> 85 EPSOM ROAD >>>>>> GUILDFORD >>>>>> SURREY GU1 3PA >>>>>> >>>>>> T: 01483 575876 (APPOINTMENTS) >>>>>> 302691 (ALL OTHER INQUIRIES/FAX) >>>>>> >>>>>> E: reception@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> >>>>>> W: http://www.guildfordphysio.co.uk >>>>>> >>>>>> ____________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> DISCLAIMER >>>>>> The information contained in this e-mail is strictly confidential >>>>>> and is intended solely for the individual/s to whom it is >>>>>> addressed. 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Might be on the >>>>>> directory at www.whitestick.co.uk >>>>>> >>>>>> The addy is though, >>>>>> blindhandyman-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Best wishes >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Steve >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: Mike Moore <mailto:mikeis@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 9:52 PM >>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Poor quality of equipment? >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, I tried resetting it and cleaning the tape etc. >>>>>> >>>>>> A Braille one is not accurate enough. I am building a raised >>>>>> decking platform, about 22 by 33 feet, on which a log cabin style >>>>>> house shall be placed upon. >>>>>> >>>>>> For use with a compound chop saw, a Braille tape would not be all >>>>>> that accurate. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for suggestion though. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Mike >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: Lyn & Twinny <mailto:lyn.bordeaux33@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 6:36 PM >>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Poor quality of equipment? >>>>>> >>>>>> Mike, >>>>>> >>>>>> Why don't you go for the Braille tape measures? 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