[access-uk] Re: Poor quality of equipment?

  • From: James AUSTIN <james.austin1984@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 15:50:51 +0100

Thanks :) I'l bare that in mind if i ever need to buy a new one - although, i 
do quite like A4 paper.

TC
Kind regards 
james 
On 3 Sep 2010, at 09:05, Jackie Cairns wrote:

> Not on your life! I wouldn't have one gift wrapped.  The new one has nothing
> like the build quality of the old machine, the keys are smaller, it only
> takes A4 paper, and I hate it! (smile).
> 
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Jackie Cairns
> J&M Work-Ability
> 
> jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> www.work-ability.co.uk
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> James AUSTIN
> Sent: 02 September 2010 22:22
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Poor quality of equipment?
> 
> Hi Jackie,
> my Perkins?  It's now 42 years of
> age and as good as new.
> 
> The Perkins is slightly different though - as it's mechanical. But yes,
> those machines were definitely built to last. Mine is nearly twenty years
> old and apart from a slight twisted backspace key - don't know what the real
> name for it is it still works fine. . I wonder if the newish ones that the
> RNIB are selling are as good? 
> 
> TC
> James
> On 2 Sep 2010, at 09:51, Jackie Cairns wrote:
> 
>> Hi Mike et al
>> 
>> I agree that the Cobolt tape-measure isn't great quality, nor the 
>> 12-minute memo recorder now being sold by RNIB.  And there are 
>> probably other examples like that if I sat and thought about them long 
>> enough.  But, in the main, I would say that most assistive technology 
>> equipment is pretty reliable and built for purpose.  I've had my 
>> PowerBraille display for eight years, for instance, and it was 
>> second-hand when I got it.  My metal Dymo gun has had years of use, 
>> yet still works well.  And my Perkins?  It's now 42 years of age and as
> good as new.
>> 
>> I do agree that some of the gimmicky sounds and silly announcements on 
>> these talking products patronise us, when a single audible beep to 
>> indicate the thing is on or off would suffice.
>> 
>> 
>> Kind Regards,
>> 
>> Jackie Cairns
>> J&M Work-Ability
>> 
>> jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> www.work-ability.co.uk
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
>> Behalf Of Mike Moore
>> Sent: 02 September 2010 09:29
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Poor quality of equipment?
>> 
>> James,
>> 
>> This is my point; all of the research and development....... 
>> who do they ask when they prototype items?
>> 
>> It is the approach that VI people are somewhat clueless and need 
>> everything explained, or notified with a fanfare when they are being 
>> presented with information.... Such as Jackie mentioned about the 
>> microwave: door open, door closed, well duh! or the fanfare when you are
> being told the time etc.
>> 
>> Regarding build quality, the talking tape- it is nearly impossible to 
>> remove the battery at times and the belt clip is insuficient to hold 
>> the tape on your belt. The weight of the tape with battery is too much 
>> and pulls the tape off your belt, and if it falls there is a wire 
>> connected onto the PCB which breaks off and you lose the speech.
>> 
>> Is there any help groups for rage against the machines?
>> 
>> Mike
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "James AUSTIN" <james.austin1984@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 10:08 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Poor quality of equipment?
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi Steve,
>>> 
>>> Although i cannot speak to your being able to measure in millimetres 
>>> as i do not have a talking tape measure,, in general, the 
>>> cheap-feeling and poor quality builds - at least in my experience do 
>>> not warrant the cost that Blindness-specific devices  are sold at.
>>> 
>>> TC
>>> James
>>> On 1 Sep 2010, at 11:21, Steve Nutt wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Lynn,
>>>> 
>>>> You hit the nail on the head.  Centimeters are fine, but you can't 
>>>> measure to the nearest milimeter, as you can with the talking 
>>>> variety.
>>>> 
>>>> All the best
>>>> 
>>>> Steve
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of >Lyn & Twinny
>>>> Sent: Tuesday 31 August 2010 10:21
>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Poor quality of equipment?
>>>> 
>>>> I don't agree with you about the Braille tape measure not being 
>>>> accurate enough. Not sure what they are like in the UK but in 
>>>> france, the braille tape measures are very accurate because each 
>>>> centimeter is represented by a dot and lots of blind people round 
>>>> here use this one rather than a tape measure and I know quite a few 
>>>> blind handy people.
>>>> 
>>>> Lyn & Twinny
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Mike Moore" <mikeis@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 10:48 AM
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Poor quality of equipment?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Steve & David,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I shall subscribe; as I am also into a bit of motor/ATC 
>>>>> restoration!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Perhaps state side is the place to source a lot of equipment if 
>>>>> possible?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mike
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "David W Wood" 
>>>>> <g3yxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 11:31 PM
>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Poor quality of equipment?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Very American and errs towards cars and U..S.  gadgets which 
>>>>>> aren't available for the most part in this country.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> David W Wood
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>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Hyde-Dryden
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 11:19 PM
>>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Poor quality of equipment?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mike, just a thought, did you know that there was a blind DIY type 
>>>>>> list?
>>>>>> Think it's called the blind handyman list. Might be on the 
>>>>>> directory at www.whitestick.co.uk
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The addy is though,
>>>>>> blindhandyman-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best wishes
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: Mike Moore <mailto:mikeis@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 9:52 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Poor quality of equipment?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yes, I tried resetting it and cleaning the tape etc.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> A Braille one is not accurate enough. I am building a raised 
>>>>>> decking platform, about 22 by 33 feet, on which a log cabin style 
>>>>>> house shall be placed upon.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> For use with a compound chop saw, a Braille tape would not be all 
>>>>>> that accurate.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks for suggestion though.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: Lyn & Twinny <mailto:lyn.bordeaux33@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 6:36 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Poor quality of equipment?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mike,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Why don't you go for the Braille tape measures? They are far 
>>>>>> better and same quality as a regular one and even look just like a 
>>>>>> regular tape measure except that it has dots on it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I whole heartedly agree with Andy about blind-specific items being 
>>>>>> too ugly and of inferior quality as most of the mainstream stuff.  
>>>>>> On top of that, we pay a higher price for all that.  I too buy as 
>>>>>> much mainstream equipment as possible, i'll just make sure that it 
>>>>>> is perfectly usable for me.  However for specific things like a 
>>>>>> tape measure for instance, I got the Braille one.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Take care,
>>>>>> 
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