Not on your life! I wouldn't have one gift wrapped. The new one has nothing like the build quality of the old machine, the keys are smaller, it only takes A4 paper, and I hate it! (smile). Kind Regards, Jackie Cairns J&M Work-Ability jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.work-ability.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of James AUSTIN Sent: 02 September 2010 22:22 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Poor quality of equipment? Hi Jackie, my Perkins? It's now 42 years of age and as good as new. The Perkins is slightly different though - as it's mechanical. But yes, those machines were definitely built to last. Mine is nearly twenty years old and apart from a slight twisted backspace key - don't know what the real name for it is it still works fine. . I wonder if the newish ones that the RNIB are selling are as good? TC James On 2 Sep 2010, at 09:51, Jackie Cairns wrote: > Hi Mike et al > > I agree that the Cobolt tape-measure isn't great quality, nor the > 12-minute memo recorder now being sold by RNIB. And there are > probably other examples like that if I sat and thought about them long > enough. But, in the main, I would say that most assistive technology > equipment is pretty reliable and built for purpose. I've had my > PowerBraille display for eight years, for instance, and it was > second-hand when I got it. My metal Dymo gun has had years of use, > yet still works well. And my Perkins? It's now 42 years of age and as good as new. > > I do agree that some of the gimmicky sounds and silly announcements on > these talking products patronise us, when a single audible beep to > indicate the thing is on or off would suffice. > > > Kind Regards, > > Jackie Cairns > J&M Work-Ability > > jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > www.work-ability.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Mike Moore > Sent: 02 September 2010 09:29 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Poor quality of equipment? > > James, > > This is my point; all of the research and development....... > who do they ask when they prototype items? > > It is the approach that VI people are somewhat clueless and need > everything explained, or notified with a fanfare when they are being > presented with information.... Such as Jackie mentioned about the > microwave: door open, door closed, well duh! or the fanfare when you are being told the time etc. > > Regarding build quality, the talking tape- it is nearly impossible to > remove the battery at times and the belt clip is insuficient to hold > the tape on your belt. The weight of the tape with battery is too much > and pulls the tape off your belt, and if it falls there is a wire > connected onto the PCB which breaks off and you lose the speech. > > Is there any help groups for rage against the machines? > > Mike > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James AUSTIN" <james.austin1984@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 10:08 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Poor quality of equipment? > > >> Hi Steve, >> >> Although i cannot speak to your being able to measure in millimetres >> as i do not have a talking tape measure,, in general, the >> cheap-feeling and poor quality builds - at least in my experience do >> not warrant the cost that Blindness-specific devices are sold at. >> >> TC >> James >> On 1 Sep 2010, at 11:21, Steve Nutt wrote: >> >>> Hi Lynn, >>> >>> You hit the nail on the head. Centimeters are fine, but you can't >>> measure to the nearest milimeter, as you can with the talking >>> variety. >>> >>> All the best >>> >>> Steve >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of >Lyn & Twinny >>> Sent: Tuesday 31 August 2010 10:21 >>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Poor quality of equipment? >>> >>> I don't agree with you about the Braille tape measure not being >>> accurate enough. Not sure what they are like in the UK but in >>> france, the braille tape measures are very accurate because each >>> centimeter is represented by a dot and lots of blind people round >>> here use this one rather than a tape measure and I know quite a few >>> blind handy people. >>> >>> Lyn & Twinny >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Mike Moore" <mikeis@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 10:48 AM >>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Poor quality of equipment? >>> >>> >>>> Steve & David, >>>> >>>> I shall subscribe; as I am also into a bit of motor/ATC >>>> restoration! >>>> >>>> Perhaps state side is the place to source a lot of equipment if >>>> possible? >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "David W Wood" >>>> <g3yxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 11:31 PM >>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Poor quality of equipment? >>>> >>>> >>>>> Very American and errs towards cars and U..S. gadgets which >>>>> aren't available for the most part in this country. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> David W Wood >>>>> >>>>> GUILDFORD PHYSIOTHERAPY AND SPORTS CLINIC MATTHEWS HOUSE >>>>> 85 EPSOM ROAD >>>>> GUILDFORD >>>>> SURREY GU1 3PA >>>>> >>>>> T: 01483 575876 (APPOINTMENTS) >>>>> 302691 (ALL OTHER INQUIRIES/FAX) >>>>> >>>>> E: reception@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> >>>>> W: http://www.guildfordphysio.co.uk >>>>> >>>>> ____________________ >>>>> >>>>> DISCLAIMER >>>>> The information contained in this e-mail is strictly confidential >>>>> and is intended solely for the individual/s to whom it is >>>>> addressed. 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Might be on the >>>>> directory at www.whitestick.co.uk >>>>> >>>>> The addy is though, >>>>> blindhandyman-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Best wishes >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Steve >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: Mike Moore <mailto:mikeis@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 9:52 PM >>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Poor quality of equipment? >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> Yes, I tried resetting it and cleaning the tape etc. >>>>> >>>>> A Braille one is not accurate enough. I am building a raised >>>>> decking platform, about 22 by 33 feet, on which a log cabin style >>>>> house shall be placed upon. >>>>> >>>>> For use with a compound chop saw, a Braille tape would not be all >>>>> that accurate. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for suggestion though. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Mike >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: Lyn & Twinny <mailto:lyn.bordeaux33@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 6:36 PM >>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Poor quality of equipment? >>>>> >>>>> Mike, >>>>> >>>>> Why don't you go for the Braille tape measures? They are far >>>>> better and same quality as a regular one and even look just like a >>>>> regular tape measure except that it has dots on it. >>>>> >>>>> I whole heartedly agree with Andy about blind-specific items being >>>>> too ugly and of inferior quality as most of the mainstream stuff. >>>>> On top of that, we pay a higher price for all that. 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