[access-uk] Re: Poor quality of equipment?

Not on your life! I wouldn't have one gift wrapped.  The new one has nothing
like the build quality of the old machine, the keys are smaller, it only
takes A4 paper, and I hate it! (smile).


Kind Regards,

Jackie Cairns
J&M Work-Ability

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www.work-ability.co.uk
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
James AUSTIN
Sent: 02 September 2010 22:22
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Poor quality of equipment?

Hi Jackie,
my Perkins?  It's now 42 years of
age and as good as new.

The Perkins is slightly different though - as it's mechanical. But yes,
those machines were definitely built to last. Mine is nearly twenty years
old and apart from a slight twisted backspace key - don't know what the real
name for it is it still works fine. . I wonder if the newish ones that the
RNIB are selling are as good? 

TC
James
On 2 Sep 2010, at 09:51, Jackie Cairns wrote:

> Hi Mike et al
> 
> I agree that the Cobolt tape-measure isn't great quality, nor the 
> 12-minute memo recorder now being sold by RNIB.  And there are 
> probably other examples like that if I sat and thought about them long 
> enough.  But, in the main, I would say that most assistive technology 
> equipment is pretty reliable and built for purpose.  I've had my 
> PowerBraille display for eight years, for instance, and it was 
> second-hand when I got it.  My metal Dymo gun has had years of use, 
> yet still works well.  And my Perkins?  It's now 42 years of age and as
good as new.
> 
> I do agree that some of the gimmicky sounds and silly announcements on 
> these talking products patronise us, when a single audible beep to 
> indicate the thing is on or off would suffice.
> 
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Jackie Cairns
> J&M Work-Ability
> 
> jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> www.work-ability.co.uk
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
> Behalf Of Mike Moore
> Sent: 02 September 2010 09:29
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Poor quality of equipment?
> 
> James,
> 
> This is my point; all of the research and development....... 
> who do they ask when they prototype items?
> 
> It is the approach that VI people are somewhat clueless and need 
> everything explained, or notified with a fanfare when they are being 
> presented with information.... Such as Jackie mentioned about the 
> microwave: door open, door closed, well duh! or the fanfare when you are
being told the time etc.
> 
> Regarding build quality, the talking tape- it is nearly impossible to 
> remove the battery at times and the belt clip is insuficient to hold 
> the tape on your belt. The weight of the tape with battery is too much 
> and pulls the tape off your belt, and if it falls there is a wire 
> connected onto the PCB which breaks off and you lose the speech.
> 
> Is there any help groups for rage against the machines?
> 
> Mike
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James AUSTIN" <james.austin1984@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 10:08 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Poor quality of equipment?
> 
> 
>> Hi Steve,
>> 
>> Although i cannot speak to your being able to measure in millimetres 
>> as i do not have a talking tape measure,, in general, the 
>> cheap-feeling and poor quality builds - at least in my experience do 
>> not warrant the cost that Blindness-specific devices  are sold at.
>> 
>> TC
>> James
>> On 1 Sep 2010, at 11:21, Steve Nutt wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Lynn,
>>> 
>>> You hit the nail on the head.  Centimeters are fine, but you can't 
>>> measure to the nearest milimeter, as you can with the talking 
>>> variety.
>>> 
>>> All the best
>>> 
>>> Steve
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of >Lyn & Twinny
>>> Sent: Tuesday 31 August 2010 10:21
>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Poor quality of equipment?
>>> 
>>> I don't agree with you about the Braille tape measure not being 
>>> accurate enough. Not sure what they are like in the UK but in 
>>> france, the braille tape measures are very accurate because each 
>>> centimeter is represented by a dot and lots of blind people round 
>>> here use this one rather than a tape measure and I know quite a few 
>>> blind handy people.
>>> 
>>> Lyn & Twinny
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Mike Moore" <mikeis@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 10:48 AM
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Poor quality of equipment?
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Steve & David,
>>>> 
>>>> I shall subscribe; as I am also into a bit of motor/ATC 
>>>> restoration!
>>>> 
>>>> Perhaps state side is the place to source a lot of equipment if 
>>>> possible?
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Mike
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "David W Wood" 
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>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 11:31 PM
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Poor quality of equipment?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Very American and errs towards cars and U..S.  gadgets which 
>>>>> aren't available for the most part in this country.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> David W Wood
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>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Hyde-Dryden
>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 11:19 PM
>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Poor quality of equipment?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mike, just a thought, did you know that there was a blind DIY type 
>>>>> list?
>>>>> Think it's called the blind handyman list. Might be on the 
>>>>> directory at www.whitestick.co.uk
>>>>> 
>>>>> The addy is though,
>>>>> blindhandyman-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best wishes
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Steve
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Mike Moore <mailto:mikeis@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 9:52 PM
>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Poor quality of equipment?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes, I tried resetting it and cleaning the tape etc.
>>>>> 
>>>>> A Braille one is not accurate enough. I am building a raised 
>>>>> decking platform, about 22 by 33 feet, on which a log cabin style 
>>>>> house shall be placed upon.
>>>>> 
>>>>> For use with a compound chop saw, a Braille tape would not be all 
>>>>> that accurate.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for suggestion though.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mike
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Lyn & Twinny <mailto:lyn.bordeaux33@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 6:36 PM
>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Poor quality of equipment?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mike,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Why don't you go for the Braille tape measures? They are far 
>>>>> better and same quality as a regular one and even look just like a 
>>>>> regular tape measure except that it has dots on it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I whole heartedly agree with Andy about blind-specific items being 
>>>>> too ugly and of inferior quality as most of the mainstream stuff.  
>>>>> On top of that, we pay a higher price for all that.  I too buy as 
>>>>> much mainstream equipment as possible, i'll just make sure that it 
>>>>> is perfectly usable for me.  However for specific things like a 
>>>>> tape measure for instance, I got the Braille one.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Take care,
>>>>> 
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