[access-uk] Re: Pen Friend Pack A? Pack B?

Sounds like a good plan but the message is stored on the pen that records it, how will all the student's and their PenFriends know what the label is? I also read on this list that there is a penFriend that can dublicate a label onto multiple Pens for just this reason, I wonder if it is a prototype or is this what you plan to use?


At 18:40 10/07/2009, you wrote:
Good point. I am one of those many people who don't read braille and more
importantly. have no intention of doing so, if I did then I would certainly
use that method as often as possible for exactly the reasons you say.
I need to put labels on a pretty large library of books to give to students
when they can't be bothered to use the library, or have spent all their
money on drink and can't buy them; this method will work for probably a
couple of years until the pen is no longer supported and mine stops working.

As for 30 to 40 years, I'm not sure I'll be around to care. <smiles>

Cheers
Karl



----- Original Message -----
From: "Dean Wilcox" <wilcoxdean@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 6:20 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Pen Friend Pack A? Pack B?


I wouldn't label my CDs, DVDs and other similar itmes for this
reason.  Maybe a bigger one is simply that in 20 or 30 years you
probably won't have a PenFriend but you will still have your fingers
and the Braille system will still be the same.  Labellers like the
penFriend may get released but they are unlikely to read each other's
labels.  Saying all this, it is all down to personal preference and
not all that many people read Braille so don't have a decision like
this to make.

At 07:11 10/07/2009, you wrote:
>Hi Karl
>
>This is my understanding too.  Another point is that The device is very
>useful for many applications but I suspect using it for anything critical
>(meaning anything that it will take you too long to construct again) may be
>risky.
>As all messages are stored on the device, any memory corruption (which can
>happen with this type of devices) may mean that all messages are lost.
>So for example I would not mark my CDs unless the messages can be easily
>backed up and restored.
>
>Regards
>Isaac
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
>Karl Proud
>Sent: 09 July 2009 21:13
>To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [access-uk] Re: Pen Friend Pack A? Pack B?
>
>Hi,
>What I meant was that if you are concerned that you would go through the
>labels fast by using them for food: labels on tins and fridge/freezer
>items,
>and felt that you would run out of labels real fast there was a way of
>using
>more than one pack of label A packs.  So, if I bought 5 packs of A labels,
>I
>could just go through them as long as I deleted the voice tag for each
>tin/freezer bag I used.  I didn't mean reusing the labels.
>
>Cheers
>Karl
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>Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 6:44 PM
>Subject: [access-uk] Re: Pen Friend Pack A? Pack B?
>
>
>No, but if you have them on a box in the freezer for example containing
>sausages and then eat the sausages and replace them with steak, you can
>rerecord the sausage label to become steak. I think this is what Karl was
>explaining.
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>Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 5:53 PM
>Subject: [access-uk] Re: Pen Friend Pack A? Pack B?
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>
> > YEAH BUT THE LABELS ARE NOT DESIGNED IT SEEMS TO BE TRANSFERED ONTO
> > DIFFERENT ITEMS AFTER USE
> >
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> > Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 5:51 PM
> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Pen Friend Pack A? Pack B?
> >
> >
> >> If you are using labels for disposable goods, like tins and freezer
> >> bags
> >> you
> >> can use pack a labels repeatedly if you simply scan the label you are
> >> using
> >> as you open the tin and then clear that label's voice tag on the pen.
> >> Then, if you scan a new label and it comes up with a voice tag you know
> >> it
> >> is still in use
> >>
> >> You just have to be sure you clear the label everytime you use the
> >> bag/tin
> >> etc
> >>
> >> Karl.
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "David Russell" <david.russell8@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 5:17 PM
> >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Pen Friend Pack A? Pack B?
> >>
> >>
> >> Barry,
> >>
> >> I believe you will get varying sizes of label in each pack.  A and b
> >> refers
> >> to the coding by which the Penfriend recognises the label itself.  for
> >> that
> >> reason you cannot purchase two packs of pack A as they will be of no
> >> use
> >> unless you have two penfriends.
> >>
> >> at present there is no pack b, but if there were, you could only buy
> >> one
> >> of
> >> those for one Penfriend.  In the future we may get pack c d e and 5 6
> >> and
> >> 7,
> >> But I will have filled my freezer long before then.
> >>
> >> David
> >>
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> >> Sent: 09 July 2009 17:09
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> >>
> >> Hi folks,
> >>
> >> I've sortive followed this and sortive not...
> >>
> >> I'm confused as to why we even have two different types of packs unless
> >> they
> >> are just different sizes?
> >>
> >> Can someone explain this, briefly in a nut shell if you will?
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> >> Thanks,
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