Hi.OK, firstly this is not a bar code scanner like at the supermarket, it uses its own proprietary labelling system which requires special labels. The additional packs are so that you can have more items labelled in case you run out of the labels that come with the device. As far as I know, there is only one proper bar code scanning device on the market, but it uses a database of commercial codes which regularly has to be updated, it doesn't always work and costs over £1000. If you use the same coded label more than once, you'll replace whatever was recorded previously for that label. IE if you were using label 100 from pack A for a tin of soup, then bought another pack A and used label 100, the PenFriend would announce that the labelled item was soup as the codes are identical. However, packs A and B are individually coded, so label 100 from pack A and the same from pack B would not cross codes.
All the best, Ibrahim.----- Original Message ----- From: "Damon Rose" <damon.rose@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 8:51 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Pen Friend Pack A? Pack B?
Dunno about you but this whole A pack B pack thing seems a bit daft. Surely it could've been developed a little better? What happens, in practice, if you use the same barcode label twice? That would be useful to know. Also, why can't we just use the barcode that is on the product itself already? This would mean that every time I swipe a can of heinz baked beans, it would always say heinz baked beans because the barcode will always be the same. Or would this necessitate too much guesswork in working out where the barcode is? I ask because some of these barcode sensors are really very good and you don't have to be precise at where you point the wand. -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Karl Proud Sent: 10 July 2009 08:38 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Pen Friend Pack A? Pack B? Isaac, I was thinking the same thing. I am guessing that the penfriend is pretty portable and can therefore be lost pretty easily - I lose every other thing! Backup is going 6to be important. really looking forward to getting a hold of one and playing with it though. Karl----- Original Message ----- From: "Isaac Porat" <isaac@xxxxxxxxxxx>To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 7:11 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Pen Friend Pack A? Pack B? Hi Karl This is my understanding too. Another point is that The device is very useful for many applications but I suspect using it for anything critical (meaning anything that it will take you too long to construct again) may be risky. As all messages are stored on the device, any memory corruption (which can happen with this type of devices) may mean that all messages are lost. So for example I would not mark my CDs unless the messages can be easily backed up and restored. Regards Isaac -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Karl Proud Sent: 09 July 2009 21:13 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Pen Friend Pack A? Pack B? Hi, What I meant was that if you are concerned that you would go through the labels fast by using them for food: labels on tins and fridge/freezer items, and felt that you would run out of labels real fast there was a way of using more than one pack of label A packs. So, if I bought 5 packs of A labels, I could just go through them as long as I deleted the voice tag for each tin/freezer bag I used. I didn't mean reusing the labels. Cheers Karl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Wilson" <barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 6:44 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Pen Friend Pack A? Pack B? No, but if you have them on a box in the freezer for example containing sausages and then eat the sausages and replace them with steak, you can rerecord the sausage label to become steak. I think this is what Karl was explaining. Find me on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/barkingbabs Barbara Wilson M: 07917710779 T: 02887784046 E: barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx IM: creativeeyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Skype: creativeeyes----- Original Message ----- From: "will" <lomaswilliam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 5:53 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Pen Friend Pack A? Pack B?YEAH BUT THE LABELS ARE NOT DESIGNED IT SEEMS TO BE TRANSFERED ONTO DIFFERENT ITEMS AFTER USE----- Original Message ----- From: "Karl Proud" <karl@xxxxxxxxxxx>To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 5:51 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Pen Friend Pack A? Pack B?If you are using labels for disposable goods, like tins and freezerbagsyou can use pack a labels repeatedly if you simply scan the label you are using as you open the tin and then clear that label's voice tag on the pen. Then, if you scan a new label and it comes up with a voice tag youknowit is still in use You just have to be sure you clear the label everytime you use the bag/tin etc Karl.----- Original Message ----- From: "David Russell" <david.russell8@xxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 5:17 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Pen Friend Pack A? Pack B? Barry, I believe you will get varying sizes of label in each pack. A and b refers to the coding by which the Penfriend recognises the label itself.forthat reason you cannot purchase two packs of pack A as they will be of nouseunless you have two penfriends. at present there is no pack b, but if there were, you could only buyoneof those for one Penfriend. In the future we may get pack c d e and 5 6and7, But I will have filled my freezer long before then. David -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]OnBehalfOf Barry Toner Sent: 09 July 2009 17:09 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Pen Friend Pack A? Pack B? Hi folks, I've sortive followed this and sortive not... I'm confused as to why we even have two different types of packsunlessthey are just different sizes? Can someone explain this, briefly in a nut shell if you will? Thanks, Barry. 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