Somehow if we were to convince the sighted who also purchase these products the advantages of speech technology for them, they would convince those manufacturers to build speech technology in to their products. We [preach such to our own. While sighted I-phone users still use their sight to text in situations where speech would better serve them. In fact, there are laws proposed in my city and surrounding areas to ban texting while driving. Claiming texting while driving is distracting. It would be less so if those texting would use voice over. Which is built in to the I-Phone. The truth is: Due to lack of knowledge concerning the advantages speech technology would afford the sighted, the sighted don't want to use speech technology. Till this changes there will be little incentive to build it in to products. There will be further back lash. Because no one enjoys being forced to do anything. That is why unless the sighted understand the advantage of building in to their products speech technology it might not be done. Another sorry thing might be half way accessibility. As is seen in some cell phone products. Wherein some of, but not all the phones features speak. This is because it is assumed speech is an assist, rather than the maim stay where by the product might be used. This is where many main stream products with speech built in fall short of the mark for us. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 5:50 AMSubject: [access-uk] Re: Paralympic legacy: was RE: Re: talking portable dab radio
Hi JimWell instead of the patronising comments members of our so-called government have been making in respect of disabled people - one minute you are so wonderful but the next we'll take your benefits off you because you're a bunch of work-shy scroungers - why don't they actually do something to earn their vast sums of money and make it law that companies should implement speech technology into their appliances. But just like all the goodwill gestures of the last couple of weeks, however, it won't happen. Yes I know I'm a cynic, but the smugness of Cameron and his cronies towards people with disabilities gets my goat like it doubtless does with most people. Hypocrites! Ho-hum!Kind Regards, Jackie Cairns -----Original Message-----From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of JimSent: 10 September 2012 10:29 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: [access-uk] Paralympic legacy: was RE: Re: talking portable dab radioHi Jackie,I wholeheartedly agree with your comment about companies incorporating speech access into their products.The media has been talking about the legacy of the Paralympics, so why not make it compulsory for companies to incorporate speech access to relevant products as one of the legacies. As you stated a speech chip would not cost a bomb.-----Original Message-----From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie CairnsSent: 10 September 2012 09:38 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: talking portable dab radio Hi Paul et al,It was a good starter for Pure to bring out the Sonus, and the voices were both good as they were personnel so I heard. But it was a tagging system, not a TTS engine, so station names were bound to outdate very quickly as they updated, or became defunct.As for the Sonus radio, why did Pure bring out 2 versions of that model, the one with speech costing £10 more than the non-speech model. There's a button to disable speech or enable it.Jim WilliamsI don't know what kind of sales they had pitched the Sonus at among visually impaired people, but it was well advertised and well received to my knowledge. It wouldn't cost any of these companies much to incorporate some kind of speech chip into their products to make them accessible, and they should be forced to do this by law, not just in a radio, but in all appliances.Kind Regards, Jackie Cairns -----Original Message-----From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul BensonSent: 09 September 2012 17:44 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: talking portable dab radio Hello Bobby and all,In an interview on In Touch a good while ago, a spokesman for Pure reported that the sales of the Sonus 1XT were very disappointing, and it was likely that they would not continue the product indefinitely.It seems that not enough of us purchased them, so who is to blame there?Incidentally, I have purchased 3 over the years, one gone off to meet it's maker, one chattering away regularly, and one still waiting to speak.Paul Benson. -----Original Message-----From: Bobby McNab - Email Address: colwyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent On: 09/09/2012 17:09 Sent To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Email Address: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: [access-uk] Re: talking portable dab radio sorry I meant why did Pure stopp making their talking DAB radio? ----- Original Message ----- From: Edward Green To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 3:51 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: talking portable dab radio Hi Clive,There are probably equivalent apps running on Android phones, but never having used Android, I don't know how accessible they are. However, anything that uses an Internet stream runs the risk of not being able to broadcast any rights restricted content.EdFrom: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Clive LeverSent: 09 September 2012 15:00 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: talking portable dab radioSeems then, that if you want anything with spoken menus, you'll have to port everything over and learn how to use apple products, or whislte dixie I could never get on with the controles on the Pure move, ehre, if you press down and a bit to the right you get one result, and if you press right and down abit you get another. Whatever I did, it always took me ten minutes to find the station I wanted. I don't listen to DaAb radio. I went off the whole idea.Best, Clive----- Original Message -----From: Clive Jacobs To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 11:11 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: talking portable dab radioYes, the lack of speech is a bit of a pain but it is not too hard to work things out. CJ.Eleanor Burke wrote:I have the Sports one which is the size of a mobile phone and rechargable battery and external speaker but no speech guidance.-----Original message-----From: Clive JacobsSent: 08/09/2012, 2:15 pmTo: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: [access-uk] Re: talking portable dab radio Hi, Roberts do make a small and very portable DAB radio. I t is worth considering. Regards CJ. Bobby McNab wrote: Hi, does anyone know if there is such a thing as a portable talking dab radio.I know there's a pure talking dab radio available, but it's not exactly portable. 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