[access-uk] Re: Paralympic legacy: was RE: Re: talking portable dab radio

  • From: "martin wilsher" <martinwilsher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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  • Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 11:45:14 +0100

the problem is that most of this access provision in the EU law, if there is any, is on a voluntary basis. noone ever did anything voluntarily. the manufactures would have to be compelled by legal means to make things accessible out of the box, they even ignore the business case, citing it as too difficult.----- Original Message ----- From: "Amanda Burt" <aburt123@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 

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   I agree that we should revive this campaign.

Amanda From: <Clive.Lever@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 10:44 AM
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: Paralympic legacy: was RE: Re: talking portable dab radio 


Hi Jim and all,
We campaigned for the inclusion into the Communications Act of accessibility as a requirement in new technology in the late nineties, but didn't get it through. Perhaps now would be a good time to revive the campaign...and let us not say: "for people with sight loss!" (one of my bugbears). 

Best,
Clive




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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim 
Sent: 10 September 2012 10:29
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Subject: [access-uk] Paralympic legacy: was RE: Re: talking portable dab radio 

Hi Jackie,
I wholeheartedly agree with your comment about companies incorporating speech access into their products.
The media has been talking about the legacy of the Paralympics, so why not make it compulsory for companies to incorporate speech access to relevant products as one of the legacies. As you stated a speech chip would not cost a bomb. 
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie Cairns 
Sent: 10 September 2012 09:38
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: talking portable dab radio

Hi Paul et al,
It was a good starter for Pure to bring out the Sonus, and the voices were both good as they were personnel so I heard. But it was a tagging system, not a TTS engine, so station names were bound to outdate very quickly as they updated, or became defunct.
As for the Sonus radio, why did Pure bring out 2 versions of that model, the one with speech costing £10 more than the non-speech model. There's a button to disable speech or enable it. 

Jim Williams
I don't know what kind of sales they had pitched the Sonus at among visually impaired people, but it was well advertised and well received to my knowledge. It wouldn't cost any of these companies much to incorporate some kind of speech chip into their products to make them accessible, and they should be forced to do this by law, not just in a radio, but in all appliances. 


Kind Regards,

Jackie Cairns

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul Benson 
Sent: 09 September 2012 17:44
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: talking portable dab radio

Hello Bobby and all,
In an interview on In Touch a good while ago, a spokesman for Pure reported that the sales of the Sonus 1XT were very disappointing, and it was likely that they would not continue the product indefinitely. 

It seems that not enough of us purchased them, so who is to blame there?
Incidentally, I have purchased 3 over the years, one gone off to meet it's maker, one chattering away regularly, and one still waiting to speak. 

Paul Benson.

-----Original Message-----
From: Bobby McNab - Email Address: colwyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent On: 09/09/2012 17:09 Sent To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Email Address: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Subject: [access-uk] Re: talking portable dab radio

sorry I meant why did Pure stopp
making their talking DAB radio?

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: Edward Green
 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
 Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 3:51 PM
 Subject: [access-uk] Re: talking portable dab radio
 Hi Clive,
There are probably equivalent apps running on Android phones, but never having used Android, I don't know how accessible they are. However, anything that uses an Internet stream runs the risk of not being able to broadcast any rights restricted content. 



 Ed
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Clive Lever 
 Sent: 09 September 2012 15:00
 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
 Subject: [access-uk] Re: talking portable dab radio
Seems then, that if you want anything with spoken menus, you'll have to port everything over and learn how to use apple products, or whislte dixie I could never get on with the controles on the Pure move, ehre, if you press down and a bit to the right you get one result, and if you press right and down abit you get another. Whatever I did, it always took me ten minutes to find the station I wanted. I don't listen to DaAb radio. I went off the whole idea. 



 Best,

 Clive
----- Original Message ----- 
   From: Clive Jacobs

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   Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 11:11 AM

   Subject: [access-uk] Re: talking portable dab radio
Yes, the lack of speech is a bit of a pain but it is not too hard to work things out. CJ. 

   Eleanor Burke wrote:
I have the Sports one which is the size of a mobile phone and rechargable battery and external speaker but no speech guidance.-----Original message-----From: Clive JacobsSent: 08/09/2012, 2:15 pmTo: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: [access-uk] Re: talking portable dab radio Hi, Roberts do make a small and very portable DAB radio. I t is worth considering. Regards CJ. Bobby McNab wrote: Hi, does anyone know if there is such a thing as a portable talking dab radio.I know there's a pure talking dab radio available, but it's not exactly portable. I'm looking for something that can fit easily in a side pocket of my rucksack as I love to listen to the radio when i take my dog to the woods.
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