[access-uk] Re: Olympus DS-50 Voice Recorder / MP3 player

  • From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 23:16:07 -0000

Hi Andy,

I heartily recommend Studio Recorder.  It doesn't have the effects that =
GW
or Soundforge has, but it is a cracking editor.  Funnily enough though, =
it
can't open WMA files.

All the best
--
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf =
Of
Andy Logue
Sent: 16 February 2007 20:55
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Olympus DS-50 Voice Recorder / MP3 player

Hi Ray.

I've heard a load of very good reports on  Studio Recorder.  Apparently,
according to Michael Lang and Larry Skutchan, it is perhaps the most
accessible Digital editor available.  I would not mind trying it out, =
though
I'm a bit of a GoldWave perve myself.

I agree, to some extent, on your comment that the BCT podcasts are a bit
overly drawn out.  Why are you sounding so surprised?  Go into any =
academic
library and read an American textbook and you'll soon discover that they
tend to talk to death a subject, where the same subject on a British =
book is
covered in a few paragraphs.

Nevertheless, I love them all at Blind Cool Tech.  We really need more =
lists
just like this to examine and discuss just about every issue affecting =
blind
and visually impaired people and the technology they may choose to =
overcome
difficulties.  It's really a fantastic list to be a part of and you are =
kept
up to date with new technology, from hundreds of list members.

As to why podcasts are normally processed as MP3's, can this not be a =
way of
simplifying things and reducing the bandwidth of uploads?  Not really =
sure
about this.  Perhaps, mp3 is an accepted format that suits most people.  =
I
don't know.  Does it matter too much?

Best wishes.
Andy



----- Original Message -----
From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 8:26 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Olympus DS-50 Voice Recorder / MP3 player


> Yes Andy and others, I realise many, if not most people, will clean up
> recordings in an editor before uploading - though I must say given the
> inordinate length some BCT podcasts go on for, I wonder if many of =
them do

> much
> if any editing.
>
> Of course when one has an audio editor not only can one do the tidying =
but

> also
> conversion to any format supported by the editor can be done.
>
> Seems little to beat Goldwave in this respect, although Studio =
Recorder=20
> from APH
> also has a lot going for it, even if it is more expensive than =
goldwave.=20
> I have
> heard rumours for some time that Studio Recorder may be due for some =
very
> substantial enhancements in future so I look forward with anticipation =
to=20
> what's
> going to emerge.
>
> Sorry to repeat myself, but does anyone know if MP3 is obligatory for=20
> Podcasts?
> Or is it simply the norm?
>
> From Ray
> I can be contacted off-list at:
> mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On =
Behalf
> Of Andy Logue
>
>
> Hi Ray.
>
> Most people that produce podcasts use a digital editor of one sort or
> another, just to iron out the creases so to speak.  Many use =
SoundForge
> which costs about =A3300.  This is a really professional digital =
editor and=20
> I
> believe extends the needs of many currently using it.  Personally, I =
use a
> program called GoldWave.  GW or GoldWave costs about =A325 and it's =
very
> accessible.  Not only do I use it for editing podcasts, but just about =
for
> everything else.  It turns your computer into a tape recorder.  I =
record
> BBC2's Album Chart Show amongst others, for listening to on another=20
> device.
> I also split wrapped CD's and edit these prior to burning onto a CD.  =
I've
> been using GW for about five years and could not do without it.
>
> Best wishes.
> Andy
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Graham Page" <gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 6:37 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Olympus DS-50 Voice Recorder / MP3 player
>
>
>> podcasts need to be in mp3 format so is there software available to
>> convert
>> from wma to MP3? can Winamp or Windows Media player do this?
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 2:24 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Olympus DS-50 Voice Recorder / MP3 player
>>
>>
>> I tend to think you may have a point Andy in the comments you're =
making
>> about
>> the DS50, although I've not bought one.  I think the truth is that
>> although
>> it's
>> limited to recording in WMA format, max 128 kbs I think quite a few =
will
>> settle
>> for that, and swapping evaluations in WMA at 96 kbs I've not been as
>> disappointed as I thought I'd be.
>>
>> The DS50 has , it is some nice playback options when reviewing =
recorded
>> material
>> too.  This and more you can hear about in Michael Lang's review at:
>>
>> http://www.longus.info/
>>
>> Yes, of course sound tagging of functions as used in this machine, is
>> always
>> going to be limited and certainly less than perfect, but at least for =

>> much
>> of
>> the time blind people won't be totally unaware of where they are in =
the
>> machine's functions.  I know of people who are going to welcome this
>> machine
>> for
>> its inconspicuousness on location and its built-in speaker too.  I =
think
>> it
>> should be judged substantialy on what it's being marketed to do,
>> conference
>> and
>> meeting recordings, as well as dictation.  Whether its the right =
thing=20
>> for
>> Podcasting I'm not sure, but you will find many users who just want =
to=20
>> get
>> on
>> and do it are going to find the quality good enough.
>>
>> As something of a purist I would prefer a machine that would record =
in
>> .wav
>> format but this isn't where this machine is placed in the market.  =
agree
>> with
>> the unnecessary high UK price, but we've been there before.
>>
>> There's lots on it now on BCT but Michael Lang is more concise. Neal=20
>> Ewers
>> as
>> good as he his, is often a bit too long winded in his reviews for my
>> tastes.
>> There's someone else too on BCT who has done a DS50 review or two.
>>
>> So, folks, listen to what's being said, and make your own mind up.
>>
>> From Ray
>> I can be contacted off-list at:
>> mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On =
Behalf
>> Of Andy Logue
>>
>>
>> Hi Steve.
>>
>> You can always convert to mp3 using GoldWave as I do.  It is a great
>> machine
>> for creating Podcasts as I'm currently doing.  The quality is superb =
and
>> I'd
>> be surprised if the Ederal could match it.  I think it's a little =
unfair
>> to
>> keep referring to it as a dictation machine. when it clearly is not.
>> However, it is perfect for recording the human voice and the built-in
>> microphone will easily pick up anything from a class to a large =
lecture
>> hall.  It has an index system that enables the user to mark =
particular
>> points in the recording which they wish to return to quickly.  It has =
a
>> built in speaker for easy monitoring of recordings, without the need =
of a
>> pair of headphones, and I'm still, after two weeks of heavy use, on =
my
>> first
>> set of batteries.  You ought to try and get your hands on one to =
check it
>> out Steve.  I could have paid a little more and got an Ederal, but =
I'm
>> glad
>> I didn't.
>>
>> Best wishes.
>> Andy
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 9:35 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Olympus DS-50 Voice Recorder / MP3 player
>>
>>
>>> Hi Andy,
>>>
>>> 250 pounds, when you can get it for 249 dollars in the States?  You =
were
>>> ripped off!
>>>
>>> Anyway, I am one of those silly people you speak of.  A machine like =
the
>>> DS50 can't even record in MP3 format, and yet they call it a Podcast
>>> machine.  It is, and remains, a good dictation machine, but that's =
about
>>> =3D
>>> it.
>>>
>>> All the best
>>> --
>>> Computer Room Services: =3D20
>>> the long cane for blind computer users.
>>> Telephone Low-call:  08452 606 277
>>> International:  +44(0)1438 742286,
>>> Fax:  +44(0)1438 759589
>>> mobile:  +44(0)7956 334938,
>>> Email:  mailto:Steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Web site:  http://www.comproom.co.uk =3D20
>>> =3D20
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On =
Behalf
>>> =3D
>>> Of
>>> Andy Logue
>>> Sent: 15 February 2007 19:59
>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Olympus DS-50 Voice Recorder / MP3 player
>>>
>>> Hi John.
>>>
>>> The Olympus DS series has been demoed by a number of people on this =
list
>>> =3D
>>> and
>>> you could download the files to listen to at your own convenience, =
by
>>> visiting the following address and clicking on the appropriate link:
>>> http://www.blindcooltech.com/.
>>> Personally, I'd pay attention to those files created by  a Mr. Neal =
=3D
>>> Ewers as
>>> these looked deep into all aspects of this device.
>>>
>>> I purchased the Olympus DS50 from a British company at:
>>> http://www.iansyst.co.uk/reviews/ds40-review/
>>> For about =3DA3250 and I'd highly recommend it.
>>>
>>> It seems to me that many folks on this list are Ederal lovers and =
=3D
>>> currently
>>> live under the misapprehension that their Ederal devices are God's =
own
>>> little children and they will do everything within their powers to =
=3D
>>> change
>>> your mind and encourage you to purchase one of these, other than any =
=3D
>>> other
>>> digital recorders.  Don't listen to them!  There are others on this =
list
>>> =3D
>>> who
>>> have opted for a device known as the Zoom Recorder, who likewise, =
live
>>> outwith reality.  The day will come when all of the people on this =
list=20
>>> =3D
>>> will
>>> arrive at the conclusion that the Olympus DS50 is the best of them =
all,
>>> hahaha.
>>>
>>> You were looking for a British user of the DS50.  I'm from Scotland! =
 Do
>>> =3D
>>> I
>>> qualify?
>>>
>>> Please get back to me if you need any more information on this =
fantastic
>>> little device and ignore all the silly responses on the list that =
this
>>> message may cause.
>>>
>>> Best wishes.
>>>
>>> Andy.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "John Farley" <john_farley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 6:25 PM
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Olympus DS-50 Voice Recorder / MP3 player
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello list,
>>>>
>>>> I have come across this Olympus DS-50 unit on a different list.
>>>>
>>>> It sounds like it could be very useful indeed as it has voice =
output =3D
>>> for=3D20
>>>> its
>>>> controls.
>>>>
>>>> A description of it can be found on www.olympus.co.uk if you =
are=3D20
>>>> interested.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone have any experience of using one of these in the UK?
>>>>
>>>> From a quick look around it would seem to cost about the same =
number =3D
>>> in=3D20
>>>> the
>>>> US and the UK, apart from the fact that the nice American folks pay =
in
>>>> dollars and we have to pay in pounds; so they get it for almost =
half =3D
>>> the
>>>> price, again.
>>>>
>>>> Could we purchase from the US and then buy a UK AC adaptor?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards, John.
>>>>
>>>> John Farley
>>>>
>>>>        Personal Contact              Work contact
>>>> Phone : 01442 259243                  01923 438172
>>>> Mobile: 07815 056076                  07785 928755
>>>> Fax   :                               01442 437909
>>>> E-Mail: john_farley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx    john.farley@xxxxxxxx
>>>> =3D
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