Hi Andy, I heartily recommend Studio Recorder. It doesn't have the effects that = GW or Soundforge has, but it is a cracking editor. Funnily enough though, = it can't open WMA files. All the best -- Computer Room Services: =20 the long cane for blind computer users. Telephone Low-call: 08452 606 277 International: +44(0)1438 742286, Fax: +44(0)1438 759589 mobile: +44(0)7956 334938, Email: mailto:Steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web site: http://www.comproom.co.uk =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf = Of Andy Logue Sent: 16 February 2007 20:55 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Olympus DS-50 Voice Recorder / MP3 player Hi Ray. I've heard a load of very good reports on Studio Recorder. Apparently, according to Michael Lang and Larry Skutchan, it is perhaps the most accessible Digital editor available. I would not mind trying it out, = though I'm a bit of a GoldWave perve myself. I agree, to some extent, on your comment that the BCT podcasts are a bit overly drawn out. Why are you sounding so surprised? Go into any = academic library and read an American textbook and you'll soon discover that they tend to talk to death a subject, where the same subject on a British = book is covered in a few paragraphs. Nevertheless, I love them all at Blind Cool Tech. We really need more = lists just like this to examine and discuss just about every issue affecting = blind and visually impaired people and the technology they may choose to = overcome difficulties. It's really a fantastic list to be a part of and you are = kept up to date with new technology, from hundreds of list members. As to why podcasts are normally processed as MP3's, can this not be a = way of simplifying things and reducing the bandwidth of uploads? Not really = sure about this. Perhaps, mp3 is an accepted format that suits most people. = I don't know. Does it matter too much? Best wishes. Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 8:26 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Olympus DS-50 Voice Recorder / MP3 player > Yes Andy and others, I realise many, if not most people, will clean up > recordings in an editor before uploading - though I must say given the > inordinate length some BCT podcasts go on for, I wonder if many of = them do > much > if any editing. > > Of course when one has an audio editor not only can one do the tidying = but > also > conversion to any format supported by the editor can be done. > > Seems little to beat Goldwave in this respect, although Studio = Recorder=20 > from APH > also has a lot going for it, even if it is more expensive than = goldwave.=20 > I have > heard rumours for some time that Studio Recorder may be due for some = very > substantial enhancements in future so I look forward with anticipation = to=20 > what's > going to emerge. > > Sorry to repeat myself, but does anyone know if MP3 is obligatory for=20 > Podcasts? > Or is it simply the norm? > > From Ray > I can be contacted off-list at: > mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx > > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On = Behalf > Of Andy Logue > > > Hi Ray. > > Most people that produce podcasts use a digital editor of one sort or > another, just to iron out the creases so to speak. Many use = SoundForge > which costs about =A3300. This is a really professional digital = editor and=20 > I > believe extends the needs of many currently using it. Personally, I = use a > program called GoldWave. GW or GoldWave costs about =A325 and it's = very > accessible. Not only do I use it for editing podcasts, but just about = for > everything else. It turns your computer into a tape recorder. I = record > BBC2's Album Chart Show amongst others, for listening to on another=20 > device. > I also split wrapped CD's and edit these prior to burning onto a CD. = I've > been using GW for about five years and could not do without it. > > Best wishes. > Andy > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Graham Page" <gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 6:37 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Olympus DS-50 Voice Recorder / MP3 player > > >> podcasts need to be in mp3 format so is there software available to >> convert >> from wma to MP3? can Winamp or Windows Media player do this? >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 2:24 PM >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Olympus DS-50 Voice Recorder / MP3 player >> >> >> I tend to think you may have a point Andy in the comments you're = making >> about >> the DS50, although I've not bought one. I think the truth is that >> although >> it's >> limited to recording in WMA format, max 128 kbs I think quite a few = will >> settle >> for that, and swapping evaluations in WMA at 96 kbs I've not been as >> disappointed as I thought I'd be. >> >> The DS50 has , it is some nice playback options when reviewing = recorded >> material >> too. This and more you can hear about in Michael Lang's review at: >> >> http://www.longus.info/ >> >> Yes, of course sound tagging of functions as used in this machine, is >> always >> going to be limited and certainly less than perfect, but at least for = >> much >> of >> the time blind people won't be totally unaware of where they are in = the >> machine's functions. I know of people who are going to welcome this >> machine >> for >> its inconspicuousness on location and its built-in speaker too. I = think >> it >> should be judged substantialy on what it's being marketed to do, >> conference >> and >> meeting recordings, as well as dictation. Whether its the right = thing=20 >> for >> Podcasting I'm not sure, but you will find many users who just want = to=20 >> get >> on >> and do it are going to find the quality good enough. >> >> As something of a purist I would prefer a machine that would record = in >> .wav >> format but this isn't where this machine is placed in the market. = agree >> with >> the unnecessary high UK price, but we've been there before. >> >> There's lots on it now on BCT but Michael Lang is more concise. Neal=20 >> Ewers >> as >> good as he his, is often a bit too long winded in his reviews for my >> tastes. >> There's someone else too on BCT who has done a DS50 review or two. >> >> So, folks, listen to what's being said, and make your own mind up. >> >> From Ray >> I can be contacted off-list at: >> mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On = Behalf >> Of Andy Logue >> >> >> Hi Steve. >> >> You can always convert to mp3 using GoldWave as I do. It is a great >> machine >> for creating Podcasts as I'm currently doing. The quality is superb = and >> I'd >> be surprised if the Ederal could match it. I think it's a little = unfair >> to >> keep referring to it as a dictation machine. when it clearly is not. >> However, it is perfect for recording the human voice and the built-in >> microphone will easily pick up anything from a class to a large = lecture >> hall. It has an index system that enables the user to mark = particular >> points in the recording which they wish to return to quickly. It has = a >> built in speaker for easy monitoring of recordings, without the need = of a >> pair of headphones, and I'm still, after two weeks of heavy use, on = my >> first >> set of batteries. You ought to try and get your hands on one to = check it >> out Steve. I could have paid a little more and got an Ederal, but = I'm >> glad >> I didn't. >> >> Best wishes. >> Andy >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 9:35 PM >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Olympus DS-50 Voice Recorder / MP3 player >> >> >>> Hi Andy, >>> >>> 250 pounds, when you can get it for 249 dollars in the States? You = were >>> ripped off! >>> >>> Anyway, I am one of those silly people you speak of. A machine like = the >>> DS50 can't even record in MP3 format, and yet they call it a Podcast >>> machine. It is, and remains, a good dictation machine, but that's = about >>> =3D >>> it. >>> >>> All the best >>> -- >>> Computer Room Services: =3D20 >>> the long cane for blind computer users. >>> Telephone Low-call: 08452 606 277 >>> International: +44(0)1438 742286, >>> Fax: +44(0)1438 759589 >>> mobile: +44(0)7956 334938, >>> Email: mailto:Steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Web site: http://www.comproom.co.uk =3D20 >>> =3D20 >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On = Behalf >>> =3D >>> Of >>> Andy Logue >>> Sent: 15 February 2007 19:59 >>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Olympus DS-50 Voice Recorder / MP3 player >>> >>> Hi John. >>> >>> The Olympus DS series has been demoed by a number of people on this = list >>> =3D >>> and >>> you could download the files to listen to at your own convenience, = by >>> visiting the following address and clicking on the appropriate link: >>> http://www.blindcooltech.com/. >>> Personally, I'd pay attention to those files created by a Mr. Neal = =3D >>> Ewers as >>> these looked deep into all aspects of this device. >>> >>> I purchased the Olympus DS50 from a British company at: >>> http://www.iansyst.co.uk/reviews/ds40-review/ >>> For about =3DA3250 and I'd highly recommend it. >>> >>> It seems to me that many folks on this list are Ederal lovers and = =3D >>> currently >>> live under the misapprehension that their Ederal devices are God's = own >>> little children and they will do everything within their powers to = =3D >>> change >>> your mind and encourage you to purchase one of these, other than any = =3D >>> other >>> digital recorders. Don't listen to them! There are others on this = list >>> =3D >>> who >>> have opted for a device known as the Zoom Recorder, who likewise, = live >>> outwith reality. The day will come when all of the people on this = list=20 >>> =3D >>> will >>> arrive at the conclusion that the Olympus DS50 is the best of them = all, >>> hahaha. >>> >>> You were looking for a British user of the DS50. I'm from Scotland! = Do >>> =3D >>> I >>> qualify? >>> >>> Please get back to me if you need any more information on this = fantastic >>> little device and ignore all the silly responses on the list that = this >>> message may cause. >>> >>> Best wishes. >>> >>> Andy. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "John Farley" <john_farley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 6:25 PM >>> Subject: [access-uk] Olympus DS-50 Voice Recorder / MP3 player >>> >>> >>>> Hello list, >>>> >>>> I have come across this Olympus DS-50 unit on a different list. >>>> >>>> It sounds like it could be very useful indeed as it has voice = output =3D >>> for=3D20 >>>> its >>>> controls. >>>> >>>> A description of it can be found on www.olympus.co.uk if you = are=3D20 >>>> interested. >>>> >>>> Does anyone have any experience of using one of these in the UK? >>>> >>>> From a quick look around it would seem to cost about the same = number =3D >>> in=3D20 >>>> the >>>> US and the UK, apart from the fact that the nice American folks pay = in >>>> dollars and we have to pay in pounds; so they get it for almost = half =3D >>> the >>>> price, again. >>>> >>>> Could we purchase from the US and then buy a UK AC adaptor? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards, John. >>>> >>>> John Farley >>>> >>>> Personal Contact Work contact >>>> Phone : 01442 259243 01923 438172 >>>> Mobile: 07815 056076 07785 928755 >>>> Fax : 01442 437909 >>>> E-Mail: john_farley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx john.farley@xxxxxxxx >>>> =3D > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=3Dunsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=3Dfaq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > >=20 ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=3Dunsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=3Dfaq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq