[access-uk] Re: Nokia N97 and Talks/Mobile Speak

Hi,

Thanks, good to know.  Although Nuance are not all that good at updating
their website with the new version as soon as it's released.  It's why I
tend to get my news through contacts on the continent.

Anyway, it'll be good to finally have access to some of those newer phones -
sweet!

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Steve Nutt
> Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 2:03 PM
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Nokia N97 and Talks/Mobile Speak
> 
> Hi Hussein,
> 
> I can't say when, but yes, these issues are being worked on.
> 
> All the best
> 
> Steve
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of
> Hussein Patwa
> Sent: Tuesday 3 November 2009 13:42
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Nokia N97 and Talks/Mobile Speak
> 
> Hi,  thanks for that explanation.  I'm happy to stick with my own N95
> 8GB
> personally, and will wait until the next release to see what
> improvements
> are made regarding support for newer phones.
> 
> I know you're probably under an NDA but I'll chance it and ask anyway -
> are
> there any new releases in the works planned for the near future?
> 
> All the best.
> 
> _______________________________________
> Have a pleasant day,
> 
> Kind Regards and Best Wishes,
> 
> Hussein.
> 
> Hussein Patwa
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf Of Steve Nutt
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 1:29 PM
> > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Nokia N97 and Talks/Mobile Speak
> >
> > Hi Hussein,
> >
> > Yes, we have a test N97 here, and Talks really does not work well on
> it
> > at
> > all.  We alswo have the latest firmware on it.
> >
> > Also, that is the reason that some of the E phones are not on the
> > Nuance
> > list. They won't be included on the list, until they are fully
> > supported.
> > By fully, we mean that all the internal Nokia apps should work. This
> is
> > why
> > the N86 is not fully supported either, but it is perfectly usable, if
> > you
> > don't want Email and help.
> >
> > All the best
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf Of
> > Hussein Patwa
> > Sent: Tuesday 3 November 2009 12:52
> > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Nokia N97 and Talks/Mobile Speak
> >
> > Hi Steve,
> >
> > From your mail I assume you have firsthand experience of actually
> using
> > Talks on the N97?  In that case I of course bow down to your first
> hand
> > knowledge.  One can only assume the guy in the post I linked to was
> > using a
> > modified version of the OS or some other way that rendered it
> > accessible to
> > him.
> >
> > Personally I don't see the point in buying a device that was
> primarily
> > intended for use through touch, when most of the experience is
> depleted
> > due
> > to the very nature of visual accessibility.  Then again, that's only
> my
> > own
> > opinion and I of course don't mean to offend anyone that is
> > successfully
> > using this phone by whatever method.
> >
> > Nevertheless, my comments about reduced support for some of the E-
> > series
> > phones stand.  I have used these first hand and can vouch for the
> lack
> > of
> > accessibility in the e-mail, help system and part of the calendar
> first
> > hand.  Just in case someone was thinking of purchasing these phones
> as
> > an
> > alternative to the N97.  It would be a shame for someone to buy a
> phone
> > for
> > primary use also an e-mail device, only to find they couldn't use the
> > very
> > features they'd paid hundreds of pounds for.
> >
> > Best for now,
> >
> > _______________________________________
> > Have a pleasant day,
> >
> > Kind Regards and Best Wishes,
> >
> > Hussein.
> >
> > Hussein Patwa
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> > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > > Behalf Of Steve Nutt
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 10:05 AM
> > > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Nokia N97 and Talks/Mobile Speak
> > >
> > > Hi Hussain,
> > >
> > > This is incorrect.  Talks does not work well at all with the N97
> > > currently.
> > > You install at your own risk.  One reason is that Key1 and Key2 can
> > be
> > > positioned in different places on the screen, and Talks givbes no
> > > indication
> > > of the position currently. Also, the menus do not speak in grid
> view.
> > >
> > > So to say Talks supports the N97 at the moment is complete
> nonsense.
> > > Most
> > > features will not work.  As a Talks dealer, you have been warned!
> > >
> > > It will be supported, but do not do it yet, you'll get nothing but
> > > frustration.
> > >
> > > I don't know the position with MS.
> > >
> > > All the best
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > > Behalf Of
> > > Hussein Patwa
> > > Sent: Monday 2 November 2009 22:43
> > > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Nokia N97 and Talks/Mobile Speak
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > This forum post gives a brief VI user review of the N97.  I'm sure
> > > you'll
> > > get some grins out of it as well:
> > > http://www.freelists.org/post/talks-uk/Nokia-N97,7
> > >
> > > The N97 does work on Talks, however some parts may have limited
> > > accessibility. On that point, note that Nuance are not all that
> good
> > at
> > > updating their list of supported phones.  A friend and I have been
> > > playing
> > > around with newer ones for a time, and often the support is 100% if
> > not
> > > very
> > > close to it, yet it is not listed on the site.  I suppose one could
> > say
> > > this
> > > is a security mechanism to prevent people complaining of false
> > > advertising.
> > >
> > > This post relates to MobileSpeak on the N97.  Note again here the
> > lack
> > > of
> > > total accessibility is highlighted.  If the N97 uses the same
> Symbian
> > > OS
> > > version as the E75 (which my fuzzy mind can't recall at the moment
> > and
> > > my
> > > contact who has one isn't answering his phone) I can tell you for
> > > definite
> > > that parts of the calendar, e-mail and the help system won't work
> at
> > > all.
> > >
> > > The best thing you could do is buy an N97 and return it within the
> 14
> > > day
> > > returns period.  Install Talks and Mobilespeak on it in turns and
> try
> > > them
> > > out.  In my experience most networks are fine about you returning a
> > > product
> > > due to a found accessibility issue.  Alternatively, borrow a
> friend's
> > > for
> > > the day.  However, I do find from experience that MobileSpeak seems
> > to
> > > have
> > > more unresolved bugs in it than the Nuance equivalent.
> > >
> > > HTH.
> > >
> > > _______________________________________
> > > Have a pleasant day,
> > >
> > > Kind Regards and Best Wishes,
> > >
> > > Hussein.
> > >
> > > Hussein Patwa
> > > Tel: 0789 47 595 62 (UK)
> > > Tel: +44 (0)122 4433 954  (SIP)
> > > Skype: patwaspotterfan2
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> > >
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> > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > > Behalf Of
> > > Edward Green
> > > Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 10:20 PM
> > > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [access-uk] Nokia N97 and Talks/Mobile Speak
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Has anyone tried running either Mobile Speak or Talks on the Nokia
> > N97?
> > > I
> > > understand this phone is running Symbian 5th Edition/version 9.4.
> > >
> > > The phone isn't listed by either manufacturer as being supported,
> but
> > I
> > > wondered whether either product allowed access to some part of the
> > > phone.
> > >
> > > Thanks for any information.
> > >
> > > Ed
> > >
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