Jamie, thanks for your detailed response. My comments were made much more towards the TNAUK offering of the web box rather than anything your employer has done, or might do in future. This said, I sometimes think that the what seems, to me, rather less than open, or informative approach of The Royal as to its future plans does make some of us think there might be something to hide, whether or not this is so. My comments on cost were the up-front cost of buying these things in the first place. We don't know of course, and presumably RNIB hasn't decided as yet, what the initial cost, if any would be to users might be of the boxes, and whether or not their may be a cost involved like, say, the cost of the Talking Book Streaming service. No doubt this will be part of the evaluation and maybe the future could see a subsidised Web Box type device announced; but this is pure speculation on my part. I simply don't know how the radio streams and other services offered might be organised, but from what's being said I gather some form of centralised server based selection would be offered. A modest example of this is what TAFN offer on their web pages. I wonder if this is what the consumer offerings in fact rely on, viz a server where all this is organised, and no doubt keeps a record of visits to stations for the benefit of advertiser's So, we shall just have to see won't we? Hope The Royal is a little more forthcoming after April 's conferring. Ray.