[access-uk] Re: New Harry Potter book

I for one can manage to listen to a book and still here the announcements of
stops on trains. I've never been on a bus where the stops are announced.

Braille is obviously an important medium for the totally blind or those who
don't have enough sight to use print it teaches us about grammar and
spelling. However it is not appropriate for all situations or for all
people. As individuals we have to work out what works best for us in our own
lives.

For me Braille is brilliant for labeling things, taking notes in lectures
and when reading from notes for presentations.

But for university work its simply not fast enough. If I have to read 4
minimum 300 page books and a number of journal articles for an essay Braille
simply is not a fast enough way of accessing the information for me. I used to be able to read around 60 Braille pages in an hour but I could never keep this up consistently over a long period of time. With speech I can set the rate reasonably fast and maintain this over a much longer period.


Just to bring this back to Harry Potter I'm glad that the Braille will be out at the same time as the print, I am disappointed though that again the audio is delayed and that there isn't the choice of a TXT version for those that want it.

I'm now in the rather nice position of having to decide if I can make the space for the Braille version and if I want to spend the double price on it rather than scanning the printed version which I have ordered from amazon.

Yusuf
----- Original Message ----- From: "Angel" <angel238@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Are you totally blind? If so, and you need to hear the bus driver call
the
stops or stop at which you need to get off when you are going somewhere
you
might want to read a brail magazine or book rather than to listen to one
while riding. When someone gives you an address or telephone number you
might find it an easier and les expensive thing to carry a pocket slate
and
index cards to write whatever number
or e-mail address is given. also A slate by the phone is nice to take
down messages as well. Labeling products and devices is more easily
accomplished if one can read Braille. If you have some usable vision it
may
be easier to read Braille rather than straining your eyes trying with
varying success to read print of different sizes. I have known those who
have put their faces on things in order to read them. Being with them at
these times is embarrassing for me. Basically there is the pride which
comes from being literate. I know now days people are still trying to say
those who read and write using means other than literally reading and
writing are also literate. I grew up during a time when this wasn't so,
and
if you couldn't read and write you were illiterate. ----- Original
Message ----- From: "Tink Watson" <tink@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 12:21 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Harry Potter book



Could you explain, to the nearly non Braillist that I am, what the
benefits of Braille are?

I'm genuinely curious, as from my perspective there seems to be
little to commend it to me.

Before I start an almightly flame war, I'll stress that I'm talking
only from my own perspective, not generally across the board. But I am
curious all the same. *Smile.

Tink.

-----Original Message-----
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Iain Lackie
Sent: 06 July 2005 22:16
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Harry Potter book

But it would be a good thing if more people were given the chance to
prefer
Braille.

Iain.
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Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 10:00 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Harry Potter book


> Hmmmmmm, perhaps not Ian, but isn't everyone allowed to choose their
> preferred format?
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>> Yes, but some blind people read Braille and despite what some would
have
>> you believe, Braille is not dying nor should be allowed to die.
>>
>> Iain.
>> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "James O'Dell" <jamesodell@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 3:30 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Harry Potter book
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>>> presumably someone has booked a slot in Stephen Fry's diary this time
>>> around?
>>>
>>> They have, but the audio version won't be available until August 25.
is

>>> anyone actually going to order the braille version then? yes I admit >>> braille is bulky but I'm perfectly happy to read a book in that
format,
>>> that's what it's for after all. Like I said I would have liked to
have
>>> seen Daisy audio, but this might well have needed to be produced
>>> using
>>> concatenated speech rather than a human reader.  Then there is the
myth
>>> that all blind people read braille, I encounter this a lot and
wouldn't
>>> be surprised if it is shared by the publishers.
>>>
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