[access-uk] Re: New BBC IPlayer - can you work out how to use it?

Hi, there are various threads on various lists, but I think the best way of 
raising it is by adding your voice to the threads on the uk radio listeners 
list, detils on Whitestick.co.uk. The beeb seem to have a few people on 
there.

Cheers
Dave


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From: "Rays Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 9:53 PM
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [access-uk] Re: New BBC IPlayer - can you work out how to use it?

Well, I'm a bit more informed now since reading the Wiki article on Flash, 
and it seems we have a virtual player embeded in a web page.  I don't know 
but maybe for propper access Adobe, and others, including screen reader 
manufacturers, have to get more meaningful access to this thing.

If the BBC can build in more controls that maybe are only there for screen 
readers, then they should do this.

Anyone who knows who we should be speaking to in the Corporation please tell 
us.  Seems the Beeb is slipping in commitment to propper acessability which 
is bad for a public organisation particularly who should be leading the way 
and showing others what can and should be done.

Cheers,
Ray.


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: James O'Dell
  Subject: [access-uk] Re: New BBC IPlayer - can you work out how to use it?


  Hi Ray

  Latest JFW and flash Player don't help things much I'm afraid.  About to 
try SA to Go.  I think it would be perfectly possible for the beeb to do 
something here by building in a "back one minute" and "forward one minute" 
button into the flash content.  The have obviously done something to make 
buttons such as 'play', 'pause' and 'restart' accessible since the previous 
version of the IPlayer, these now speak correctly without custom labels in 
JAWS.  So adding a couple of extra buttons would seem to be the way to go, 
also possibly an edit box which would allow you to locate a specific 
percentage or time position within the content.  As it is all we have is a 
slider control which by definition can't be made accessible, at least not 
within the environment of a browser.  For the same reason, i.e. the fact 
that we are dealing with a web browser rather than a standard application, 
scripting won't help here either.  Another issue is that, at least with 
JAWS, you have to keep pressing insert +escape to force JAWS to refresh the 
virtual buffer whenever a page loads and then every time you activate one of 
the flash elements, this updates the information and controls that JAWS can 
see.  So it's not intuitive at all.

  Cheers

  James





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