[access-uk] Re: NVDA

  • From: Mike Ray <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 15:56:49 +0000


Didn't know about that one :-)

You have to press numpad twice actually.

On 21/01/2016 01:46, Ejaz Shah wrote:

Why not use the NVDA command "spell the word" Numpad 5 on desktop which
reads the numbers as single digits?

On 1/20/2016 9:48 PM, Mike Ray wrote:
Great stuff Clive.

I guess we've all done the headphone/telephone shuffle, trying to keep
the headphones over one ear and the telephone over the other ear.  Don't
need the added complication of the screen-reader gabbling one million
two hundred and thirty four thousand six hundred and seventy eight.

Only took me about six attempts to get that right :-/




On 20/01/2016 16:03, Clive.Lever@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Hello all,

I have just sent a request to the developers to incorporate the
choice between reading out a sring of digits as a whole number and
reading it digit by digit. And also to suggest that a sting of digits
with letters interspersed should be spoken one digit at a time, for
example:
Our ref: G12345678H/235/K would be easier to remember if read as:
G 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 H/2 3 5/K
And it's important not to have to convert whole numbers to a series
of digits in your head when  you need to quote that reference back
over the phone to a service provider.

Best,
Clive



-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Henry Miller
Sent: 20 January 2016 15:49
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: NVDA



Hi Mike
I fully agree with you-well said.
Best wishes
Henry


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 20 January 2016 15:19
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: NVDA


I'd actually go further than this...

NVDA is Open Source.  It is possible not only to change it, but to
feed changes back to the developers, and to have some influence on
what it does.

I know that 'you get what you pay for' is a common maxim but it
breaks down when talking about software, and no doubt other things as
well.  It would be better if it ran something like this 'you get what
they think they can give you (the bare minimum) for the maximum
price, and you have to keep paying or they cut you off'.

There is a mass of free (as in as a bird) and Open Source software
out there and you might not realise that you use a lot of it every
time you browse a web site and make a purchase.

NVDA is more than just a thing which is 'a bit better than narrator'.

Even if I could afford it there is no way I would buy Jaws or any
Dolphin product and be held to ransom and forced to pay more than my
computer cost just so I could use it.

There is more than one way to swing a cat applies very much to software.
  If package ABC does not work with NVDA then chances are there is an
XYZ package that does the same thing just as well which DOES work
with NVDA.
  Sure there are things about NVDA which are either quirky or just
downright annoying, but a thousand pound price tag isn't one of them.

So numbers get read out as words...which is annoying when it's a
phone number, so in my files which contain phone numbers I put a
space between each number.  Just saved myself a thousand quid there.

Mike



On 20/01/2016 14:43, dudleym@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
The big boys charge big bucks, NVDA is free. You get what you pay for
in life and if you can't afford it then at least NVDA is better than
narrator.
Steve Nutt recently said:-

Hi,

I know, but the big boys can handle it, JFW and Window-Eyes and even
Supernova has number control.  It should be a basic function of any
screen reader.  I'm surprised NVDA doesn't do it at core level, since
it was written by two blind guys and you'd think numbers as words all
the time would drive them up the wall, especially when programming.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Rajmund
Sent: 19 January 2016 13:58
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: NVDA

Hello,
Not trying to hijack, but even IOS has issues with something like
999999, or a phone number, at least, with punctuation disabled.

----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Nutt  <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 1:53 pm
Subject: [access-uk] Re: NVDA


Hi,

Wow and a screen reader never had that basic feature until now?
Incredible.
How did everyone put up with it?  Phone numbers anyone?

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
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Of
Kevin Cussick (Redacted sender "the.big.white.shepherd" for DMARC)
Sent: 18 January 2016 22:30
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: NVDA

Steve,   your correct but there has been a patch submitted some time
ago
just not had the love yet.

On 18/01/2016 20:54, Steve Nutt wrote:
Hi,

I believe that's one thing you can't do with NVDA.  If you can,
I'd love
to
know.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
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Of
Henry Miller
Sent: 18 January 2016 19:23
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] NVDA



Hi
Please could someone remind me how to change the settings to
ensure that
NVDA speaks individual digits when announcing a long string of
numbers?
Many thanks
Henry


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