[access-uk] Re: NOVATECH COMPUTERS
- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 06:57:40 +0100
Hi,
Yes, this is correct.
All teh best
Steve
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Peter Beasley
Sent: 11 August 2012 19:46
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: NOVATECH COMPUTERS
I understood that you could use32 bit programs on a 64 bit system but not
the other way fround.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carol Pearson" <carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 5:19 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: NOVATECH COMPUTERS
> Thanks, George.
>
> Is it still that way, does anyone know?
>
> Carol P
> ---- Original Message -----
> From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 2:09 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: NOVATECH COMPUTERS
>
>
>> The golden rule (at least it used to be) was that if Windows had the
>> word "Home" in its version name, you could use Standard JAWS. (Or in
>> fact the Pro version of JAWS if you wanted to.)
>>
>> Versions of Windows without "Home" in the name, required JAWS
>> Professional.
>>
>> George.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf Of Carol Pearson
>> Sent: 11 August 2012 13:50
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: NOVATECH COMPUTERS
>>
>> Yeah, but on what computers do you need the Professional version of
>> Jaws?
>>
>> Carol P
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Iain Lackie" <ilackie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 1:21 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: NOVATECH COMPUTERS
>>
>>
>>> There has never been a price difference between 32 and 64 bit
>> versions of
>>> JAWS. The price difference is between standard and professional.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Iain
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Carol Pearson
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 12:38 PM
>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: NOVATECH COMPUTERS
>>>
>>> So where is the price difference? There used to be one.
>>>
>>> Carol P
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Iain Lackie" <ilackie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 12:06 PM
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: NOVATECH COMPUTERS
>>>
>>>
>>>> There has never been a price differential between 32 and 64 bit
>> versions
>>>> of JAWS.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Iain
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Barry Toner
>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 11:51 AM
>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: NOVATECH COMPUTERS
>>>>
>>>> Hi Steve,
>>>>
>>>> It does see the 4GB just complains not all of it is usable.
>>>>
>>>> It's nice though that today 64Bit is pretty much common place. Are
>> JFW
>>>> still making a distinction between 32/64 in pricings? Whoever's
>>>> considering buying a new machine and is thinking of Windows may
>> need to
>>>> consider this.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Barry.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf
>>>> Of Steve Nutt
>>>> Sent: 11 August 2012 11:37
>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: NOVATECH COMPUTERS
>>>>
>>>> Hi Barry,
>>>>
>>>> Yep, I'd say that's about right.
>>>>
>>>> All the best
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
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>>>> Hertfordshire
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf
>>>> Of
>>>> Barry Toner
>>>> Sent: 11 August 2012 11:34
>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: NOVATECH COMPUTERS
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Sorry to be picky but they normally dont' see anything usable above
>>
>>>> 3.75GB.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Barry.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf
>>>> Of
>>>> Steve Nutt
>>>> Sent: 11 August 2012 11:32
>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: NOVATECH COMPUTERS
>>>>
>>>> Hi Mo,
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, but 32 bit versions of Windows do not address memory above
>> 4GB.
>>>>
>>>> All the best
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf
>>>> Of
>>>> Mobeen Iqbal
>>>> Sent: 10 August 2012 17:15
>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: NOVATECH COMPUTERS
>>>>
>>>> Hi Carol. Here are my views on your questions.
>>>>
>>>> In terms of speed, you may have had computers either that are old
>>>> running windows XP that have been upgraded to windows vista/7, or a
>>>> computer running windows Vista. There may not necessarily be
>> anything
>>>> wrong with your computer, its probably the operating system. Often,
>> a
>>>> memory upgrade or upgrading to a solid state drive can very
>> dramatically
>>>> improve performance with huge cost savings. I recently upgraded a
>>>> friends computer running a quad core processor from 5 years ago,
>> and
>>>> windows boots within 20 seconds and that's windows7 ultimate, the
>> most
>>>> resource hungry version of windows 7! Windows 8 should run fine on
>> any
>>>> windows7 certified PC. an intel Dual core with 4GB of ram minimum
>> should
>>>> be perfectly sufficient, with AMD i'd recommend going for a quad
>> core
>>>> CPU for maximum performance. My field is computer hardware, so i'd
>> be
>>>> more than happy to help you out in sourcing a computer, or
>> performing an
>>>> upgrade for you. Obviously i can not directly advertise these
>> services
>>>> on this list. I do not use Novatech. I have used them in the past
>> but
>>>> find ebuyer.com much better value and they have much more choice.
>> Then
>>>> there's the custom build option. A PC tailered to your specific
>>>> requirements could cost you as little as £200 and still keep you in
>>>> excellent stead for years to come. Personally, all my computers for
>> my
>>>> self and for clients are running 32bit versions of windows7. Again,
>>>> people will argue that you need 64bit for computers with more than
>> 4GB
>>>> of ram. this isn't always the case. manufacturers provide support
>> for
>>>> ram up to 16GB for windows7 32bit. again, this was the case on a
>>>> friend's laptop. The laptop was upgraded from 4GB to 8GB and is
>> running
>>>> a lot faster running windows7 32bit ultimate edition and yes,
>> windows
>>>> sees and utilises all 8 GB of ram.
>>>>
>>>> Freedom Scientific do charge more i think for what they call the
>>>> professional version of jaws. That's for certain editions of
>> windows i
>>>> think its for windows7 ultimate, professional and
>> enterprize/business.
>>>> Standard is for home premium and basic i think. I would stick to
>>>> windows7. Windows8 has a horrible interface and has been slated as
>> the
>>>> next windows vista by a lot of people. When i watched a video by GW
>>>> micro, they were describing it and it sounds awful. The settings
>> menus
>>>> are convoluted and you have to enter multiple menus to get to where
>> you
>>>> want to go to the point where you forget where you've been. I
>> certainly
>>>> won't be installing it.
>>>>
>>>> As for windows7 editions, there's not much between them all.
>> Windows7
>>>> ultimate as the name suggests is the ultimate edition with all
>> bells and
>>>> wistles. The enterprize/business editions are geared obviously
>> towards
>>>> enterprize/business functionality so provide support for use cases
>> where
>>>> you're connecting to domains/servers across a corpret network.
>> Windows7
>>>> home premium is more likely the version you'll find on your PC.
>> this is
>>>> geared more towards home users and provides a nice balance between
>>>> functionality and features. Again, i'd recommend sticking to 32bit.
>>>> While most applications may support 64bit, some drivers and anti
>> virus
>>>> products as well as applications do not work well on 64bit versions
>> of
>>>> windows. Clients have specifically asked me to downgrade to 32bit
>>>> because for example their scanner drivers do not work on 64bit, but
>> work
>>>> fine on 32bit. for example, if you have a scanner that worked fine
>> on
>>>> XP, on a 32bit version of windows7 you could use it because XP
>> emulation
>>>> can be used in realtime to make the driver think you're running
>> windows
>>>> XP when you're really running windows7. on a 64bit install, this
>> becomes
>>>> a lot harder because the original driver is 32bit, not 64bit. Sorry
>> if
>>>> i've confused you!
>>>>
>>>> If i can help in any other way please don't hesitate to get in
>> touch.
>>>> I'd be more than happy to give you a ring or converse with you off
>> list
>>>> to find you the best deal.
>>>>
>>>> all the best,
>>>>
>>>> Mo.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/08/2012 14:24, Carol Pearson wrote:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Whilst seriously considering Apple, I'm also looking at Novatech
>> for
>>>>> my next computer.
>>>>>
>>>>> I realise it may not be a great time to buy, with Windows 8 still
>> in
>>>>> Beta, so I'd like advice on the kind of spec I should be looking
>> for
>>>>> in order to take full advantatage of Windows 8, bearing in mind
>> that
>>>>> I'm sick and tired of slow, slow, very slow, stop speed!
>>>>>
>>>>> In addition, please could people confirm whether Jaws Standard
>> works
>>>>> on any flavour of Windows, or must I still upgrade Jaws for some
>>>>> versions of Windows?
>>>>>
>>>>> Finally, if I start at Windows 7, what's the difference between
>> the
>>>>> various versions?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for any input.
>>>>>
>>>>> Carol P
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