[access-uk] Re: NEW ACCESSIBLE SEARCH ENGINE

Actually, Steve, it's *perfectly* acceptable to me also - and I use a
different screen reader!  <SMILE>


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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 8:18 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: NEW ACCESSIBLE SEARCH ENGINE


> Hi Tink,
>
> I haven't tried it yet, but I think my question is, how good is it as a=20
> search engine?  For example, why do I need an "accessible" engine, when=20
> Google seems perfectly accessible to me?  Or am I an old blind synnic
with=
> =20
> a good screen reader?
>
> All the best
>
> At 10:45 28/06/2004, L=E9onie Watson spake these words of wisdom
>  >Ian,
>  >
>  >    Thanks for posting this up, it's refreshing to see accessible
design=
>  put
>  >to the fore, but I do wish that they hadn't shot themselves, not to=
>  mention
>  >the rest of the accessible design sector, in the foot.
>  >
>  >    They claim that they are AAA compliant against the Web Content
>  >Accessibility Guidelines (WCAG), which may be fair enough. But they also
>  >claim they are Level AAA compliant against the Bobby Guidelines and
this=
>  is
>  >where I really take issue.
>  >
>  >    Bobby is not a set of guidelines, it is a tool for measuring a site
>  >against the Web Content Accessibility Guidelines. If a site believes=
>  itself
>  >to be Level AAA against the WCAG, then Bobby can be used to confirm
this,=
>  up
>  >to a point at least. Bobby is not entirely renound for its accuracy.
>  >
>  >    Because Bobby isn't always very accurate, YouSearched have given
>  >themselves an unnesscesary problem. Bobby doesn't find the site Level
AAA
>  >compliant under the Web Content Accessibility Guidelines, it doesn't
even
>  >find it Level A compliant. This is because Bobby is failing, not
because=
>  the
>  >site is.
>  >
>  >    Bobby says that the site fails to set the language type of the=
>  document,
>  >which isn't the case. The language type is clearly set, but because of
the
>  >way the coding is arranged its quite likely that Bobby hasn't
interpreted=
>  it
>  >correctly.
>  >    Bobby also says that 15 images don't have alternate text. The
images=
>  in
>  >question have an empty alt text, but because the site uses apostrophes
>  >rather than double quotes to enclose the alternate text, Bobby believes=
>  this
>  >to be an error.
>  >
>  >    The upshot is this. Because the press release claims Level AAA
against
>  >Bobby Guidelines, people will immediately go and check this, much as I=
>  did.
>  >What they will see is that, according to Bobby, the site fails basic
>  >accessibility and this is the impression they will carry away with them,
>  >marring an otherwise great design.
>  >
>  >    I'm going to contact YouSearch and pass on my thoughts too. This
could
>  >be a useful resource to add to my bookmarks.
>  >
>  >
>  >Regards,
>  >Tink.
>  >
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