Indeed Jackie agree wholeheartedly with what you say but what about this adaptor thing I am talking about, would it not do the job where you plug in the seriel part and then the USB to the PC. It is not a cable now mind. I recall discussing something like this this morning perhaps on another list, not sure and Ibrahim also mentioning the same adaptor. Will have to look out e-mails. I had my powerbraille with WordPerfect 5.1 and Keynote Gold. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:21 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: My experiences moving over to Window Eyes
Hi EleanorI bought my PowerBraille some years back secondhand. I appreciate that things change, more sophisticated technology appears on the market, and you move on from operating system to operating system or version to version of a product. And perhaps FS decided to remove serial support within JAWS 11 for reasons we aren't privy to. Nevertheless, I am using Windows 7, need to run JAWS 11, and want my PowerBraille to remain active. It can't be done, they aren't interested in little me or the minority who use such displays, so therein lies my choice. I can't afford six grand for a new Focus just because it supports USB only, and there isn't anything wrong with my PowerBraille apart from old age, and I know how that feels anyway, (big smile).It's all about what suits the individual at the end of the day. I have my reasons and bear no disrespect to anybody. I just have to do what suits me and my budget.Jackie Cairns Braille Specialist Email: jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sight and Sound Technology Ltd Welton House North Wing Summerhouse Road Moulton Park Northampton NN3 6WD Tel: 01604 798024 Mob: 07887 883815 www.sightandsound.co.uk -----Original Message-----From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eleanor BurkeSent: 11 May 2010 15:39 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: My experiences moving over to Window EyesIndeed Jackie. I think my PowerBraille cost eight thousand, yes eight thousand pounds!!!!Eleanor ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 3:34 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: My experiences moving over to Window EyesHi Eleanor Freedom Scientific have removed serial support from JAWS version 11. Up until then, I was able to do just as you describe by using an USB toserial converter on a Netbook or laptop. Unfortunately, FS have failed todeal with this problem in JAWS 11. They advise you to purchase an USB to parallel converter, but it doesn't work. And, without going intocomplications, their attempt at trying to give me a work-around screwed upprevious versions of JAWS I need to run on my machine. So, in essence, USB to serial conversion works prior to JAWS 11 on a display such as PowerBraille, but not any more, and that's my big problem really. I like my PowerBraille display, it still functions well, and I'm not going to change it unless I either have the money, or choose to of my own doing. Jackie Cairns Braille Specialist Email: jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sight and Sound Technology Ltd Welton House North Wing Summerhouse Road Moulton Park Northampton NN3 6WD Tel: 01604 798024 Mob: 07887 883815 www.sightandsound.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke Sent: 11 May 2010 15:15 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: My experiences moving over to Window Eyes Hi JackieI appreciate I may be wrong, but did I not understand you to say some timeback that a USB parallel cable would work with Power Braille and Jaws 10? For those interested Power Braille and Focus blue work with Supernova also. Eleanor ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 2:52 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: My experiences moving over to Window EyesHi Pele One of the things dearest to my heart, as many know, is Braille. And because of the route FS have elected to take regarding the digital signing of drivers - rightly or wrongly depending on your point of view - I canno longer use my own PowerBraille display if I want to work with JAWS 11.Having just purchased a Windows 7 laptop, I obviously need to run JAWS 11, and there is no way around the display issue because I am not prepared, and certainly can't afford, to purchase something that suits FS. I know from what I've seen and heard that Window-Eyes supports Braille very well, and this is just one of many incentives for me to move over. I don't think I'll ever uninstall JAWS from my PC because it is something I will use having forked out for it. But I'm prepared to give Window-Eyes a goodtry, particularly with Braille in mind. As soon as I downloaded the demoand chose a PowerBraille display, it went first go. Time will tell. Jackie Cairns Braille Specialist Email: jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sight and Sound Technology Ltd Welton House North Wing Summerhouse Road Moulton Park Northampton NN3 6WD Tel: 01604 798024 Mob: 07887 883815 www.sightandsound.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Pele West Sent: 11 May 2010 14:37 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: My experiences moving over to Window Eyes Hi Jackie and Everyone I am also someone who has gone over completely to Window-Eyes. I used JAWS when I was at work as it had better support for MS Office at that time but, as my husband preferred Window-Eyes, always used it at home. Now I am no longer at work I find Window-Eyes works well with the programs I run. 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