Hi Jackie, Yes, I accept there may be slight anomalies between versions of Office 2003 and the newer versions, but a difference in highlighting text so that it reads the same as before? Your workaround re pressing left then right cursor to highlight text is exactly the same when checking date fields in a table.Pressing the left cursor to make sure I am at the start of the date produces silence but pressing the right cursor once takes me to the end of the date field. So its pressing left cursor once and then the right cursor once and sharkie announces the second character in the field and left cursor and the first number in the date field is spoken So that's 3 keystrokes for the price of one! My other gripe about tables is really more pathetic but I have already blown a fuse about it in other messages. And as for your comment about the brown stuff, well, you know what they say: "Where there's muck there's money" Take care. Jim -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie Cairns Sent: 12 March 2012 12:22 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Moving from earlier JAWS versions Hi Jim I use Office 2003 myself with JAWS 13 and Windows 7 Home Premium. Like it or not, you will always find anomalies with every version of JAWS, it's how they make their money! Having said that, I have noticed small things myself in Word that tend to be a bit annoying, but which probably wouldn't happen if I updated to a later version of Office. For example, within Word, sometimes I can't jump paragraphs using control and down arrow as JAWS won't speak them. Sometimes it doesn't always read the word to the right of the cursor when going through a sentence to check something using control and right arrow. But it works if I go left then right again. I know that sounds a bit daft, but that's how it behaves. When I copy text to the clipboard and paste it into a blank Word document, instead of the text being there, I get the width and height of something instead, something completely irrelevant to what was in the clipboard. I then have to re-select the text and paste it again. What's all that about? In Outlook, JAWS sometimes just shuts up and I am left with the Braille display to get me out of the shit, (pardon me). But I don't blame JAWS alone for all these little quirks, I feel it's likely that Microsoft and Freedom Scientific combined are forcing people to constantly update their software, like we are all made of money and have to go rushing out when the new version comes out for fear the old one will be discontinued or not worked on for existing customers. But I will only update when I am ready. All my Windows updates are present and correct, I am using Microsoft Security Essentials, and I can't do any more than keep the machine ticking over and up-to-date. Keep plodding on Jim. Kind Regards, Jackie Cairns -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Williams Sent: 12 March 2012 10:53 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Moving from earlier JAWS versions Hi Shea, I have set all updates to automatic with both Windows and JAWS so I assume that Office 2003 is ok and XP is definitely Service pack 3. And as I mentioned in Steve Bingham's message, I received my copy of JAWS from Blazie, not S&S. Jim -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Shea Anker Sent: 12 March 2012 00:26 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Moving from earlier JAWS versions Hi, I found that later versions of Jaws do not work as well with earlier versions of Windows and Office, and the reverse is also true. If you have the latest service packs from Windows, and Office, that might help with Jaws 13. Personally, I din't really like Jaws 13 and hope that the next version is a bit better. Shea -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Williams Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 2:02 PM To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Moving from earlier JAWS versions Hi List, Apologies for cross posting of this message. Using JAWS 13 and Office 2003 I recently upgraded from JAWS 9 to version 13 and have encountered a few minor difficulties in the process. Without going into great detail, has anyone found difficulty in highlighting large amounts of text in Word 2003 when using JAWS 13 that were not present when using an earlier version of JAWS in combination with Word 2003. I have posted more details of this highlighting problem on other lists but have had no meaningful responses. 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