Hi jackie, Talks does indeed rule, but at the moment, Mobile Speak is the only game in town if you want a Windows phone, apart from Smart Hal, which to be honest is not good at all. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie Cairns Sent: Sunday 9 March 2008 14:20 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Mobile Speak Hi Chris Thanks for your thoughts on Mobile Speak. I don't have a decision to make on which to go for. I am a TALKS lover, and think it's the best thing to happen this century! (smile). I just wanted to try out Mobile Speak as a comparison, but so far, not so good, in respect of its voices. I just can't get used to them at all, and I personally find Mobile Speak a lot slower when arrowing through menus and things. No, TALKS rules, but it's each to their own, and rather like the screen reader scenario. Jackie Email: cairnsplace@xxxxxxx Skype Name: Cairnsplace ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Hallsworth" <christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 10:38 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Mobile Speak > Hi Jackie, thanks for agreeing with me about Eloquence. It's very sad, > and, as a result, I'm sticking with Talks for the rest of my life > <smiles>. Seriously, when I tried MobileSpeak on my N70, I found it to be > sluggish compared to Talks, however I did like the fact that one can > customize it exactly to their needs, which you can't really do with Talks. > Also some of the voices, like Lequendo Simon, was very good and in fact > was louder compared to Eloquence, however since Talks doesn't support > Lequendo voices as far as I know I had to persuade myself that MobileSpeak > wasn't the programme for me, and to stick with Talks. In regards to the 10 > minute demo limitation, this is true for both MobileSpeak and Talks, > however you can request a 30 day licence for both programmes, so in theory > you've got 60 days to try each screen reader. This should allow you way > enough time to try them out and make your decision. I hope this helps, and > good luck in your decision-making. > > Jackie Cairns wrote: >> Well thanks for your feedback people on the various voices, and Nuance's >> apparent unwillingness to licence Eloquence to Code Factory. How sad! >> like Chris, I'm just used to it. >> >> But of those who use Mobile Speak as well as TALKS, what is your overall >> opinion of it? Do you find Mobile Speak slower than TALKS, for example? >> So far, I certainly do when I am cursoring up and down menus and going >> into various applications on the phone. And of course I'm frustrated by >> the fact it runs out after 10 minutes because I've just got a demo. >> >> Any feedback appreciated as I am genuinely interested in a comparison >> between the two really, and how people find them. >> >> Jackie >> >> Email: cairnsplace@xxxxxxx >> Skype Name: Cairnsplace >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: orhan deniz To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, March 07, >> 2008 4:35 PM >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Mobile Speak >> >> >> well Dec access 32 sounds way better than that garbage DECtalk that >> mobile speak offers. sick DECtalk for mobile speak! >> >> >> orhan. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: James Scholes To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, March 07, >> 2008 4:23 PM >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Mobile Speak >> >> >> No, Eloq is not available for Mobile Speak users, as Code Factory acted >> quite childishly and had a bit of an argument with Nuance, the makers of >> Talks, so the voice was removed. >> James Scholes >> http://www.jamesscholes.com >> >> >> From: Jackie Cairns Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 1:56 PM >> To: Access UK Mailing List Subject: [access-uk] Mobile Speak >> >> >> Hi All >> >> I've downloaded a demo version of Mobile Speak, and am beginning to >> have a mess around with it, just to see how it compares to my beloved >> TALKS. >> >> But, so far, I hate the voices that come with it. I mean, you wouldn't >> want to lust after any of them would you? (smile.) Anyway, is there an >> Eloquence voice that can be run on Mobile Speak like there is with TALKS? >> Please tell me there is!! (grin.) I'm not saying you would want to lust >> after Eloquence either but ... it's better than these other lads and >> lassies. >> >> I am running this software on a phone that doesn't have TALKS >> installed, just to be on the safe side, so any help would be sincerely >> appreciated. >> >> Thanks in advance good people. >> >> Jackie >> >> Email: cairnsplace@xxxxxxx >> Skype Name: Cairnsplace >> >> >> __________ NOD32 2924 (20080305) Information __________ >> >> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >> http://www.eset.com >> > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq