I am disappointed at your view Ray, it's nothing to do with setting a good example, it's a statutory obligation. And personally as a licence payer, I expect them to comply with legislation. I recognise that to some it may appear a very insignificant matter, but aren't they the same head in the sand types that were only too happy to turn a blind eye to equality for Black and minor ethnicity? ----- Original Message ----- From: Rays Home To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:27 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: MORE ON BBC IPLAYER I of course eplore the lack of propper access to the IPlayer from the start, but I'm sure it will be put right - and it can be, i'[m pretty confident of that. Yes, the Beeb should be setting a good example as a public service broadcaster, but how many large corporate organisationsare doing what they should be doing, let alone the smaller operators? So, as Iain says let us have a bit of perspective here. Ray. ----- Original Message ----- From: Iain Lackie Subject: [access-uk] Re: MORE ON BBC IPLAYER In general, the service is neither difficult nor impossible. It is only the volume and the jump functions which are unavailable. I think we need some perspective here. Iain ----- Original Message ----- From: Keith Jones Subject: [access-uk] Re: MORE ON BBC IPLAYER I mentioned that I felt that this may well constitute a breach of the provisions of the Disability Discrimination Act, as the service being provided is no longer accessible to screenreader users. If this thing is generally available to the public but is difficult or impossible for blind people then it does constitute a violation of section 21. RNIB should be able to advise on remedies. Keith Jones ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Godfrey-McKay To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 8:32 PM Subject: [access-uk] MORE ON BBC IPLAYER Hi, In case it's of interest, here's the dreadful reply I got from the beeb, followed by my reply - which, on rereading, should have been stronger: "Dear Richard Thank you for contacting BBC iPlayer support team. I understand you want audio description on BBC iPlayer for screen reader users. We have received similar reports from other users and I can confirm that our development team are working hard to resolve the issue. You may wish to check the BBC iPlayer messageboard for the latest updates regarding this issue. www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mbiplayer For future reference you may wish to know that you can contact the BBC iPlayer support team via the following web form: https://iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.uk/templates/bbciplayer/emailForms/emailPage Once again thank you for contacting BBC iPlayer. If you have any further enquires please do not hesitate to contact our team. Regards Usha BBC iPlayer Dear Usha, Thank you for your reply to my complaint. I'm afraid that you haven't really resolved matters to my satisfaction. I mentioned that I felt that this may well constitute a breach of the provisions of the Disability Discrimination Act, as the service being provided is no longer accessible to screenreader users. I'd be grateful if you would please deal with that point, and let me know by when it is intended that the iPlayer will be accessible. Why were the needs of screenreader users not incorporated into the new player before it was released? Is there a formal complaints procedure which I can follow to have the matter investigated thoroughly? With many thanks, Richard Godfrey-McKay Richard Godfrey-McKay Tel: (01738) 445 880 Mobile: (07791) 452 593 Please read this special message My partner, Cindy, is losing weight and at the same time, raising money for RNIB. Please go to www.justgiving.com/slimmercindy to make a generous donation to RNIB and keep her healthy and motivated to lose even more weight.42Lb to date! Thanks for reading this message. Richard ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1578 - Release Date: 28/07/2008 17:13