[access-uk] Re: Long cane training

James -

Are you saying that if GDBA become aware that I used a long cane at times, they might say that I therefore have no need for a guide dog? My situation is that the work I do with clients interests/disturbs the dog, and in turn, that disturbs the client. I have looked at leaving the dog in another room when with clients, but he then barks - I don't feel he has been properly matched for me, but can't afford to let him go and wait for another replacement, I was on the replacement list 12 months as it was, waiting for him! It just feels like I need a second means of mobility for certain circumstances, and I don't feel a guide cane offers enough basic safety!

Andy
----- Original Message ----- From: "James O'Dell" <jamesodell@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 1:35 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Long cane training


I can see the problem, I have received long cane training from guide dogs myself when social services weren't able to provide any. One real disadvantage of losing the guide dogs long cane service, *if* this is indeed what is happening, will be that they won't be able to provide you with long cane training with a view to geting a dog. I had my interview and this was followed up with additional cane work, but my various rehab workers from GDBA were in touch every so often with the GDMIs to monitor how things were going.

But looking at it from their point of view, I guess they would argue that their core service is the provision of guide dogs, many current GDOs are unhappy about GdBA using its funds to provide other rehab services. And while GDBA are doing the work, social services have no insentive to do anything, they would say that providing the service would be an inefficient duplication of what was already out there.

To turn to your specific situation, andy, I would strongly suggest you speak to GDBA as soon as possible, and try not to give up hope on using the dog. You shouldn't allow your employers or clients or anyone else to determine your choice of mobility aid, and you may need to develop some strategies to minimise your clients' distraction when the dog is around. There is no magic solution as far as mobility is concerned, and it would make sense for you to discuss the full range of options with GDBA before reaching a decision. Mel Spooner, who moderates the UK-guide-dogs list is a member of this group as well, so hopefully she will see this thread and approve your membership if she hasn't already done it. Just in case you've joined a different list, the subscribe address for Mel's is uk-guide-dogs-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Remember that if you give up the dog now, it might be harder for you to reapply in future if your circumstances change or if you find that long cane mobility, whilst removing some of the distraction issues, doesn't meet your day-to-day needs for getting around.

I'm not saying it's easy, just that if you have not already done so you need to take a few deep breaths and really reflect on your situation before deciding anything. At the moment I live in a communal hall of residence in a university. The fire alarm went off at 3.50 a.m. this morning and we were all shunted out to a lecture theatre to be counted etc, and whilst we were waiting in there about every third person was asking me if the dog was tired. Marvelous!

Good luck

James
----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Beasley" <pjbeasley@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 12:39 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Long cane training


If what you say is correct, it is an absolute disgrace.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry Hill" <bbinc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 7:37 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Long cane training


Hi Andy

You should get long cane training from Guide Dogs, but I don't know for
how
much longer they will be offering the service as they are cutting back on
rehab officers.

Barry

----- Original Message -----
From: "Andy Collins" <Andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 9:56 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Long cane training


> Hi George -
>
> I'm in Devon, already a guide dog owner, finding that my new dog > creates
> too much distraction when I'm working with clients, and feel I need
> another form of mobility for these occasions. I've been attempting to
join
> the guide dog list to see if other old-timers like myself are finding
that 
> dog mismatching is taking place; so far, it seems to be taking time to
> have my request to join the list, accepted! So, I'm interested in
learning
> about long cane mobility, but also interested in peoples experience > with
> guide dogs now, compared to 25 plus years ago, and if other GDO's
> occasionally use long cane in certain circumstances.
>
> Andy
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 9:14 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Long cane training
>
>
> Hi Andy,
>
> Much depends on where you are in the country.
>
> RNIB might be a reasonable place to start asking.
>
> But your location might help others to help you.#
>
> George.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
> Sent: 31 May 2006 20:58
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Long cane training
>
> Hi all -
>
> Not quite the right list I'm sure, but don't know where else
> to ask, but can anybody give me any info on how to get long
> cane training, who offers it, how long the training takes,
> and the cost for it, if any?
>
> Thanks -
>
> Andy
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