Just bought an HP business machine and, on the sales site, it was Vista downgradeable to XP, but when I booted up, the native OS was XP... Bonus! I can still upgrade to Vista when that eventually, one day, in the dim and distant future, maybe makes sense.
All the best, Barry G----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Hallsworth" <christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:24 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Laptops revisited
I very much doubt it. Some companies, like Dell and Acer, are offering XP as downgradable disks however, but I doubt you can buy machines with XP preinstalled now.-- Chris Hallsworth E-mail: christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx MSN: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx Skype: chrishallsworth7266 FTP: ftp://blindsoftware:ilovecracks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Klango: chrishallsworth----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrien Collins" <adriencollins22160@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:16 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Laptops revisitedHi Can you still get xp pc's cheaply? Regards Adrien You can get me off list at: adriencollins22160@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx or adriencollins06@xxxxxxx or adrien_collins@xxxxxxxxxxx I support cobweb, why don't you? Cobweb is a charity which provides support for sick and disabled children and their families. To find out more or to make a donation go to: www.cobwebfoundation.org Speakon is a free fully self-voicing accessible multimedia program for the visually impaired, find out more by downloading the software from: http://www.a-technic.net/speakon.htm You can join the speakon user group by sending a blank e-mail to: speakon-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andrew Ireland Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 8:56 PM To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Laptops revisited Hi Steve, I can sort of agree, but the Screen Reader hasn't been in development for all that long, and I would think better things are to come in the next version of the Mac Operating System. Also, the Mac is very stable, not something we can say about Windows! I stil use XP Pro on my Windows Box, and I am happy enough with it. All the best -- Andrew On 09 September 2008 19:48: Steve Nutt wrote:Hi Andrew, The Mac ain't much good either. Nice for basic stuff likewordprocessing, not so nice on the web, and the screen readerisn't soconfigurable. XP Rules! All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] OnBehalf Of Andrew Ireland Sent: Tuesday 9 September 2008 19:46 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Laptops revisited I agree about Vista, it isn't my idea of a good operatingsystem.That's why I purchased a Mac! <Smile>. All the bestHi George, If you change to the classic start menu though, you loseone of thefew lovely advantages of Vista. You can go to the runmenu, and justtype anything and it will find the nearest program. Soyou couldtype "word" and you will be right on Word. If you changethat toclassic, you lose it. One of the few things I like aboutVista.Other than that, I think Vista is Microsoft's idea of apracticaljoke. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] OnBehalf Of George Bell Sent: Tuesday 9 September 200815:40To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Laptops revisited Hi Adrien, There is a learning curve with Vista, but it won'tusuallygive you the screaming ab-dabs. If nothing else, you canatleast change to the Classic Start menu. Office 2007 is the nasty one. For example in Word, whilealot of keyboard shortcuts have been retained, the whole structure has changed and things have been moved all over the place. George. -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of AdrienCollinsSent: 09 September 2008 15:15 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Laptops revisited Hi George It sounds like one of the equium range. Thanks forlettingme know. Is vista easy to use and is there a tutorial on it? Regards Adrien You can get me off list at: adriencollins22160@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx or adriencollins06@xxxxxxx or adrien_collins@xxxxxxxxxxx I support cobweb, why don't you? Cobweb is a charity which provides support for sick and disabled children and their families. To find out more or to make a donation go to: www.cobwebfoundation.org Speakon is a free fully self-voicing accessiblemultimediaprogram for the visually impaired, find out more by downloading the software from: http://www.a-technic.net/speakon.htm You can join the speakon user group by sending a blank e-mail to: speakon-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of George Bell Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 4:03 PM To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Laptops revisited I was in a hurry, so didn't note the model number, but Ihada brief glimpse of a Toshiba in PC World, Northampton attheweekend, where the keyboard included a number pad. As I recall price was around £500 - £600. George. -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of AdrienCollinsSent: 09 September 2008 14:51 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Laptops revisited Hi Steve No problem, I'll take a look at that site, obviously Ihaveto shop around. I have only used toshiba laptops, most of them start at 2 gb ram which is pretty good. I don't know the other makes, toshiba prices are reasonable too. Regards Adrien You can get me off list at: adriencollins22160@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx or adriencollins06@xxxxxxx or adrien_collins@xxxxxxxxxxx I support cobweb, why don't you? Cobweb is a charity which provides support for sick and disabled children and their families. To find out more or to make a donation go to: www.cobwebfoundation.org Speakon is a free fully self-voicing accessiblemultimediaprogram for the visually impaired, find out more by downloading the software from: http://www.a-technic.net/speakon.htm You can join the speakon user group by sending a blank e-mail to: speakon-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 9:46 AM To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Laptops revisited Hi Adrien, I can't answer your Toshiba questions, I never buy them,Idon't like them. They have non-standard drivers. That's just my opinion. A good source for laptop stuff though is http://www.laptopshop.co.uk. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Adrien Collins Sent: Monday 8 September 2008 22:17 To: 'access uk' Subject: [access-uk] Laptops revisited Hi I know there have been a whole load of messages recently about laptops and I'm sorry to ask you guys to go over it again but my questions are more specific. I am interested in the toshiba equium 210, does any bodyusethis laptop? What is it like? I am also seriously looking at the toshiba satellite300d,this has 2 gb ram and if I order it I will upgrade to 3gbof ram, is 2 gb sufficient to run vista and hal and allmyother programs? Would I be better with the 3 gb? Lastly, being in France, not many companies over herewillsupply me with a laptop with english keyboard or windows. Therefore I have to purchase from the UK. I know of play.com, laptops direct and pcworld, would you guys beableto recommend some other companies to me please. 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