[access-uk] Re: KNFB Mobile Demo
- From: "Caroline Ford" <caroline@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 20:16:52 +0100
Sorry for being late on this thread, but I'm just catching up on hundreds of
e-mails after ten days away.
I'd be interested to know whether anyone has had success in obtaining the
KNFB Reader through Access To Work. Is it the kind of product they are
willing to fund, or have most people found it necessary to fund it
themselves?
Thanks,
Caroline.
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Steve Dryden
Sent: 27 June 2009 21:01
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: KNFB Mobile Demo
Actually Elanor, I'd say you'd have a much better chance of getting the KNF
over the DBT upgrade any day. Duxbury is hardly going to give you much
additional functionality, mind you, I guess it does depend on which version
you have. If it is pre 2005 I think the braille code has changed. I'm sure
you could put forward a suitable case for being able to read supplementary
notes and classwork if you go to their workshops.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "ELEANOR BURKE" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 1:22 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: KNFB Mobile Demo
> Thank you Steve for that. I have to say that this product is very
> expensive but revolutionary for blind people. As a student (I am not
> employed) I think from what I've heard about it that student's should be
> able to apply for it but I cannot imagine myself having approval for such
> an item, I've had enough trouble obtaining a braille embossor which is an
> item of equipment only required by a blind person and I had an assessor at
> the Open University who said I did not need an upgrade of DBT so can you
> imagine me looking for KNFB Reader, smile.
>
> Eleanor
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 12:28 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: KNFB Mobile Demo
>
>
>> Hi Eleanor,
>>
>> This is one of my criticisms of KNFB Reader, and that is there is no 30
>> day
>> demo. There really should be considering the cost of it.
>>
>> I hope Jackie or someone at S and S will pass that on. There is after
>> all,
>> demos of Talks, and because KNFB is harder to use until you learn how to
>> align the camera, it is even more important that they should let you have
>> a
>> demo.
>>
>> All the best
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>> Of
>> ELEANOR BURKE
>> Sent: Saturday 27 June 2009 10:51
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: KNFB Mobile Demo
>>
>> Thanks Jackie. I must do that either sight village or a demo from
>> someone.
>> Only thing is then I will want one!!! Smile.
>>
>> Eleanor
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 10:38 AM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: KNFB Mobile Demo
>>
>>
>>> Hi Eleanor
>>>
>>> The K-NFB Reader software is, indeed, the product which goes on the N82
>>> or
>>
>>> 6220 Classic.
>>>
>>> Sight Village is being held in Birmingham between 14 and 16 July,
>>> inclusive. There may well be a Sight Village London later in the year.
>>>
>>> If, however, you would like a demo, then just call the office and
>>> someone
>>> will help you, and answer any questions you have.
>>>
>>>
>>> Jackie Cairns
>>> Braille Specialist
>>> Email: Jackie.Cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Sight and Sound Technology Ltd
>>> Welton House North Wing
>>> Summerhouse Road
>>> Moulton Park
>>> Northampton
>>> NN3 6WD
>>> Telephone: 01604 798024
>>> Fax: 01604 798090
>>> Web: www.sightandsound.co.uk
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>>> Of ELEANOR BURKE
>>> Sent: 27 June 2009 10:23
>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [access-uk] KNFB Mobile Demo
>>>
>>> Hi Jackie
>>> Is this KNFB reader the one people use with mobile phones? I woujld
>>> love
>>> to have a demo. Remind me please if you do not mind, when and where is
>>> Sight Village? Will it be in london this year also?
>>>
>>> Eleanor
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 10:14 AM
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: TIME FOR A RANT ...
>>>
>>>
>>>>I would just like to say that, as an end user for many years of
>>>>assistive
>>>>technology, I care passionately about customer care and support. Much
>>>>of
>>>>the equipment we buy costs a lot of money, and it is important to know
>>>>if
>>>>a
>>>>particular piece of kit is right for you.
>>>>
>>>> All I can say, without advertising, is that if anyone requires a
>>>> demonstration of the products we sell, you contact the office and ask
>>>> for
>>>> one. We try to offer no-obligation demonstrations throughout the UK.
>>>> Admittedly, there are some far-flung places where going to demo a piece
>>>> of
>>>> equipment can be costly, and we do try to make every effort to
>>>> accommodate
>>>> such a scenario.
>>>>
>>>> In my role, I look after all the Braille products and K-NFB Reader
>>>> mobile.
>>>> I have met so many people in the last year, and been able to put voices
>>>> to
>>>> the names I have conversed with through Email over several years of
>>>> being
>>>> on these lists. It's the customer focus and ensuring that a person
>>>> gets
>>>> what they want out of technology that makes my job so worthwhile and
>>>> rewarding.
>>>>
>>>> I'm sorry Carol that you have had an unfortunate experience.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jackie Cairns
>>>> Braille Specialist
>>>> Email: Jackie.Cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Sight and Sound Technology Ltd
>>>> Welton House North Wing
>>>> Summerhouse Road
>>>> Moulton Park
>>>> Northampton
>>>> NN3 6WD
>>>> Telephone: 01604 798024
>>>> Fax: 01604 798090
>>>> Web: www.sightandsound.co.uk
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of roger south
>>>> Sent: 24 June 2009 15:43
>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: TIME FOR A RANT ...
>>>>
>>>> Hi Carol
>>>>
>>>> You have my sympathy as I've been down that street as well. Several
>>>> years
>>>> ago I wanted to buy a portable book reader and the one to have was the
>>>> Road Runner. I have a severe hearing loss and therefore hear mostly
>>>> electronically. This made me wary as to whether it would be suitable
>>>> for
>>>> me.
>>>> I phoned the dealer and was told the price etc. I explained my
>>>> difficulty
>>>> and fears so would I be able to return it if I needed to. In no
>>>> circumstances I was told as the machine would be second hand. If it was
>>>> unsuitable I'd have to find a buyer to purchase it off me. What he
>>>> didn't
>>>> realise and was not interested in listening to was that only the actual
>>>> machine would be used briefly as I would have used my own batteries out
>>>> of
>>>> courtesy and I never use head-phones ever as they are of no use to me.
>>>> My
>>>> own induction loop would have been plugged in instead.
>>>>
>>>> Another list member agreed to meet me and allow me to try his. It
>>>> transpired I was unable to get on with it and never did purchase one.
>>>> But
>>>> the dealer in question, due to his short sightedness and rude behaviour
>>>> has lost a potential customer for life. I would wait for hell to freeze
>>>> over before I bought even a box of matches from him in the future.
>>>>
>>>> Rger
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Carol Pearson" <carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: "Access UK Mailing List" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:10 AM
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] TIME FOR A RANT ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I don't exactly apologise for this post and I'll try to keep it brief!
>>>>
>>>> I've just written about my recent experience when visiting the RNIB
>>>> shop
>>>> at
>>>> Judd Street for the first time a few weeks back ...
>>>>
>>>> (I won't repeat here what I wrote there ...)
>>>>
>>>> My quest to get a proper indepth demonstration of the Plextalk Pocket
>>>> has
>>>> been exceedingly difficult ... and I've now decided to give it up.
>>>>
>>>> Not only was I unable to get anything like a demonstration at the RNIB,
>>>> but
>>>> I have declined to purchase the "Infotech" article. This was the last
>>>> nail
>>>> in the coffin for me! I was told this would cost me £10 as I'm not a
>>>> regular subscriber to "Infotech" and you can no longer purchase
>>>> individual
>>>> articles at a reasonable rate. I think £10 is too steep and, despite
>>>> my
>>>> writing both Brian and Terry at T&T, I heard nothing from them.
>>>>
>>>> Well, that's just too bad! It seems my quest for a recorder I'll
>>>> really
>>>> like and get on with is just not to be!
>>>>
>>>> Surely, it ought to be easier than this to get proper demonstrations
>>>> and
>>>> a
>>>> working knowledge of this high tech stuff for which we have to pay
>>>> fairly
>>>> high prices anyway ...
>>>>
>>>> OK - rant over!
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Carol
>>>> carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>
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