[access-uk] Re: Jaws V 8.0

I have real speak installd on here and although it's not as responsive as 
eloquence, it's still slower so again, like someone just said, I wouldn't 
use it for a main synth, but sure can be used as alternative, especially 
when you want a long reading or something like that.
Vanja
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dj Paddy" <mygroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 4:57 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws V 8.0


I haven't used Real Speak.

Is it CPU intensive?

I've a core 2 duo here that I can use Neo Speech with Window Eyes without a
system hit but older machines would suffer badly in terms of performance.
Ôà
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Graham Page" <gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 10:28 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws V 8.0


Hi.

I would certainly agree that too much of what HJ are doing is bug fixes and
not enough is new features but as far as Vista goes I understood that FS
were going to release a free update to JAWS version 8.

As far as real speak is concerned, I am myself quite happy with Eloquence
but I have been using speech synthesisers for some time.

for those that have not, my own evidence suggests that they find the real
speak synths much easier to understand.

If i'm reading a long text, give me Braille any time but that's my personal
preference and fortunately I have the sense of touch required to read
Braille and I have been able to access Braille classes at school.

regards

Graham
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 10:12 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws V 8.0


Hi,

I now have the RTM DVD of Vista though won't be trying it.  The point I =
was trying to make was that this 8.0 came only a few days after the =
hotfix for 7.10, we were quite happy with this hotfix for IE, and FS =
could have spent longer testing the v8 version, possibly getting a =
version that has Vista compatability out end of Jan/middle of Feb =
sometime.

As Barry says the new features in it aren't really worth bothering with, =
there is in the new features list some Jaws keystrokes for moving round =
tabs in IE7, the thing is that those are Windows commands and I can do =
this fine now in version 7.10!

Andrew.

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf =
Of Dj Paddy
Sent: 20 November 2006 21:25
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws V 8.0

Vista will be out January 30.

The Gold Disc was released on November 8, and the MSDN guys and =
Corporate=20
customers will have it if not now then by the end of this month.

The main reason January 30 is set for consumers is because of driver=20
compatibilitys with current hardware.  To give the hardware vendors a =
window=20
to update their drivers.

My reason for calling it a disaster is that it's not moving forward.  =
It's=20
not adding any real, everyday functionality, I didnt' see anything about =

Office 2007, SAPI Alia's?

coem on.  Able to switch the voice ont he fly when reading text?

That's not screen and application access, that's just a bit of fancy =
reading=20
scripting.

I  to was once int he comfort zone of Jaws and occasionally go back.  =
Old=20
habits die hard.

Dj Paddy
=D4=E0=06
----- Original Message -----=20
From: "James O'Dell" <jamesodell@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 5:38 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws V 8.0


Fs haven't committed to making this upgrade vista-compatible, but then =
at
the moment we don't know when vista will be released yet, so that seems
reasonable enough to me.  I wonder what level of access to Vista WE =
users
will get for what they have already paid?  JAWS has done a great job for =
me
for the last nine years, I agree that WE is catching up, and is probably
ahead in terms of its user interface being far simpler etc, but I see no
reason for calling the latest version of JAWS a "disaster".

ali, what specific problems are you having with JAWS 8?

James
----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Dj Paddy" <mygroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 4:30 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws V 8.0


> Windoweye's is definitly a different animal and I get frustrated when =
i
> don't know how to perform various reading tasks and I just need to get =
the
> job done.
>
> However, i feel Windoweye's is the wisest route to go.
>
> I will spare you all a rant on Jaws.  My comments speak for themselves =
on
> my
> previous message.
>
> Dj paddy
> =D4=E0=06
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 4:23 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws V 8.0
>
>
> Hi,
> I like most people am staying away from Jaws 8 and am migrating to
> WindowEyes as much as possible.  I am still falling back to the jaws
> keystrokes quite a bit, but am getting there.
>
> Why they released version 8 days after releasing the 7.10 update was a
> mystery - they had precious time to do more tests on it, plus make =
version
> 8
> a Vista compatible upgrade!
>
> Andrew.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Dj Paddy
> Sent: Mon 20/11/2006 16:20
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws V 8.0
>
> This is shocking.
>
> I've just been reading the latest disaster and can not believe =
somebody is
> honestly going to pay for this.
>
> This thing isn't even supporting Vista for goodness sake!
>
> And what is all that SAPI Alia's stuff about in say all?
>
> OMG, that's a new feature?
>
> More and more nonsense!
>
> I'm raging because, I like many wasted my money on this rubbish for =
years!
>
> I'm disgusted because, many still will!  Also rehab agency's and that
> whole
> area will thrust this product on unsuspecting souls.
>
> Note:  this is a consumers viewpoint and I think it's utter pooh.
> Barry
> =D4=E0=06
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 3:39 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws V 8.0
>
>
> Andrew, for details of JAWS 8 go to:
>
> http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_products/software_jaws80fea.asp#OS
>
> From Ray
> I can be contacted off-list at:
> mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On =
Behalf
> Of andrew shipp
>
> Hi All,  What are the benefits of upgrading to Jaws V 8.0?
> Regards
>
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