[access-uk] Re: Jaws V 8.0
- From: "Dave Taylor" <dave@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 16:42:21 -0000
Hi,
You're both within your rights. I have to say that my perception is that
there has been very little improvement in Jaws now for a very long time. I
think the last really good innovation was the quick navigation keys.
Meanwhile, GW Micro has simplified Window Eyes and made it work well with
more applications. I do personally think that Dectalk is awful and well out
of date. Eloquence is certainly better. I quite like the idea of an
alternative Say All command to use with Dnaiel which does not mean switching
synths. I also feel that Dolphin aren't as far behind now. In fact, they
are probably the closest they have been since the DOS days, then there are
alternatives like System Access as well, which is actually pretty good at a
lot of the basic things.
Jaws users do know that tere are unstable versions. It is what makes us
wonder if it's really worth the bother of upgrading each time. I think the
last really good version was a long time ago, though I have forced 7.0 to
work. I gave up on 7.1 and went back. But to expect customers to use an
unstable version knowing there will be a better one is arogant indeed, and
that, in my view, would appear to be FS's problem. They are now too big and
there are things going on way about Eric's head, which I'm sure he must not
feel entirely happy about. GW are still small enough to respond, and small
enough to want to invest in getting the testing process right, which is
crucial.
Cheers
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Graham Page" <gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 3:38 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws V 8.0
> mainly I would say that you need to give more detail as to why and also to
> be a bit more constructive about saying which features you would want to
> see
> added.
>
> I think that all JAWS users know that sometimes versions of JAWS come out
> that turn out not to be stable enough. As I understand it, JAWS is still
> the leading screenreader in terms of numbers using it so FS should have
> more
> resources than most when it comes to testing.
>
> As I have already said though, I think the new real speak synth is more
> than
> just a gimic, particularly for those new to having to rely on speech.
>
> So in summary I am saying it is important to make positive suggestions as
> well as purely to criticise.
>
> Regards
>
> graham
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dj Paddy" <mygroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 11:34 AM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws V 8.0
>
>
> I'm exercising a consumers right.
>
> The right to comment when I thinka product's crap and I think Jaws is.
>
> What's wrong with that?
>
> Dj Paddy
> Ðà
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Graham Page" <gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 9:18 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws V 8.0
>
>
> seems to work well enough here I must say. don't know what you're bleeting
> about. no one is forcing you to upgrade if you don't want to.
>
> Cheers
>
> graham
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dj Paddy" <mygroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 4:20 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws V 8.0
>
>
> This is shocking.
>
> I've just been reading the latest disaster and can not believe somebody is
> honestly going to pay for this.
>
> This thing isn't even supporting Vista for goodness sake!
>
> And what is all that SAPI Alia's stuff about in say all?
>
> OMG, that's a new feature?
>
> More and more nonsense!
>
> I'm raging because, I like many wasted my money on this rubbish for years!
>
> I'm disgusted because, many still will! Also rehab agency's and that
> whole
> area will thrust this product on unsuspecting souls.
>
> Note: this is a consumers viewpoint and I think it's utter pooh.
> Barry
> Ôà
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 3:39 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws V 8.0
>
>
> Andrew, for details of JAWS 8 go to:
>
> http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_products/software_jaws80fea.asp#OS
>
> From Ray
> I can be contacted off-list at:
> mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf
> Of andrew shipp
>
> Hi All, What are the benefits of upgrading to Jaws V 8.0?
> Regards
>
> Andrew Shipp
>
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