[access-uk] Re: Jaws & Magic - anyone use them?

Brian,

If you wouldn't mind, I'd like to know the settings to check on my
Toshiba M5 as well.

Cheers

Regards

Dave Ankers

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Of Brian Hartgen
Sent: 22 May 2008 16:30
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws & Magic - anyone use them?

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Hi
 
Do you have a Toshiba laptop?  If so there are a couple of items you
need to uncheck which I can check out for you.  You will also find you
will get this behaviour if iTunes is installed.  
 
 
 

        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: phil stephenson <mailto:phil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  
        To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 4:45 PM
        Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws & Magic - anyone use them?

        Steve,
        
        Well as you say this is all a bit odd really how the two
programs don't work
        better together.
        
        I've just downloaded the Magic 11 demo from the FS website, have
loaded it,
        checked the video intercept drivers are installed however every
time I start
        magic my laptop does a reboot.  I've done it with and without my
Jaws 8
        running at the same time and get the same result.
        
        So I have to say I'm not impressed and if this is anything to go
by then
        it's no wonder that so far only 1 person on this list has
admitted to using
        or having used Magic in the past.
        
        The program itself looks like it should be good and I like in
principle the
        Imerge facility to use a camera and have split screen with
camera display &
        screen magnification however as I can't get past the first step
of getting
        the program to launch then as I say I'm not impressed.
        
        Thanks anyway for your comments,
        
        Phil
         
        
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        From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of
        Griffiths, Steve
        Sent: 21 May 2008 09:08
        To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws & Magic - anyone use them?
        
        Phil,
        
        I think that Freedom Scientific - or maybe it was back in the
days of Henter
        Joyce - bought MAGic and have been gradually bringing it closer
to JAWS with
        each release. That's why there may still be incompatibilities.
It's
        surprising to me, for instance, that you need MAGic 11 and JAWS
9 if you
        want the magnification to track the virtual cursor - something I
would have
        thought was fundamental to a combined speech and magnification
package.
        
        Steve
        
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        From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of
        phil stephenson
        Sent: 20 May 2008 22:26
        To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws & Magic - anyone use them?
        
        Hi Dave,
        
        Great, glad to finally find someone who does use it (smile!).
        
        Yes you would've thought as they're both developed by the same
company that
        Jaws & Magic would work seamlessly together, I note this is what
FS are
        claiming is more the case with Jaws 9 and magic 11.
        
        Many thanks,
        
        Phil
         
        
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        From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of
        Ankers, Dave (UK)
        Sent: 20 May 2008 17:30
        To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws & Magic - anyone use them?
        
        
        Well Phil,
        
        You're wrong! I use it.  Before my eyesight deteriorated to the
point in
        which I required a screen reader, I used to use Dolphin Lunar.
and then
        Zoomtext.  When I was assessed by the RNIB, JAWS and Lunar were
recommended,
        but Brian Hartgen of T&T Consultancy, soon discovered they do
not work
        together.  So Lunar was switched for Zoomtext, and those nice
people at
        Dolphin, gave a full refund! However I did have some problems
using JAWS and
        Zoomtext, so it was switched again to Freedom Scientifics MAGIC,
which works
        better, but I still believe even though JAWS and MAGIC are both
made by
        Freedom Scientific, that they still don't live together as well
as one might
        expect.
        Personally I believe FS should fully integrate JAWS and MAGIC
into one
        product.
        HTH
        
        Dave
        
        Me again,
         
        Doing some digging around on speech / magnification options and
wondering if
        anyone out there is or has ever used Magic from Freedom
Scientific?  I'm not
        planning on using it myself and I'm aware of other solutions
like Zoomtext,
        Supernova etc but I must confess although I've heard of Magic I
don't think
        I've ever come across anyone who uses it....so go on prove me
wrong!
         
        Thanks,
         
        Phil
         
        
        
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