[access-uk] Re: Jaws & Magic - anyone use them?
- From: "phil stephenson" <phil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 16:45:55 +0100
Steve,
Well as you say this is all a bit odd really how the two programs don't work
better together.
I've just downloaded the Magic 11 demo from the FS website, have loaded it,
checked the video intercept drivers are installed however every time I start
magic my laptop does a reboot. I've done it with and without my Jaws 8
running at the same time and get the same result.
So I have to say I'm not impressed and if this is anything to go by then
it's no wonder that so far only 1 person on this list has admitted to using
or having used Magic in the past.
The program itself looks like it should be good and I like in principle the
Imerge facility to use a camera and have split screen with camera display &
screen magnification however as I can't get past the first step of getting
the program to launch then as I say I'm not impressed.
Thanks anyway for your comments,
Phil
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From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Griffiths, Steve
Sent: 21 May 2008 09:08
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws & Magic - anyone use them?
Phil,
I think that Freedom Scientific - or maybe it was back in the days of Henter
Joyce - bought MAGic and have been gradually bringing it closer to JAWS with
each release. That's why there may still be incompatibilities. It's
surprising to me, for instance, that you need MAGic 11 and JAWS 9 if you
want the magnification to track the virtual cursor - something I would have
thought was fundamental to a combined speech and magnification package.
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
phil stephenson
Sent: 20 May 2008 22:26
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws & Magic - anyone use them?
Hi Dave,
Great, glad to finally find someone who does use it (smile!).
Yes you would've thought as they're both developed by the same company that
Jaws & Magic would work seamlessly together, I note this is what FS are
claiming is more the case with Jaws 9 and magic 11.
Many thanks,
Phil
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Ankers, Dave (UK)
Sent: 20 May 2008 17:30
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws & Magic - anyone use them?
Well Phil,
You're wrong! I use it. Before my eyesight deteriorated to the point in
which I required a screen reader, I used to use Dolphin Lunar. and then
Zoomtext. When I was assessed by the RNIB, JAWS and Lunar were recommended,
but Brian Hartgen of T&T Consultancy, soon discovered they do not work
together. So Lunar was switched for Zoomtext, and those nice people at
Dolphin, gave a full refund! However I did have some problems using JAWS and
Zoomtext, so it was switched again to Freedom Scientifics MAGIC, which works
better, but I still believe even though JAWS and MAGIC are both made by
Freedom Scientific, that they still don't live together as well as one might
expect.
Personally I believe FS should fully integrate JAWS and MAGIC into one
product.
HTH
Dave
Me again,
Doing some digging around on speech / magnification options and wondering if
anyone out there is or has ever used Magic from Freedom Scientific? I'm not
planning on using it myself and I'm aware of other solutions like Zoomtext,
Supernova etc but I must confess although I've heard of Magic I don't think
I've ever come across anyone who uses it....so go on prove me wrong!
Thanks,
Phil
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