Good point well made james, why didn't I think of that eh, dunno, bu t will do it and wait and see when / where my cd's turn up!! _____ From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of James O'Dell Sent: 14 November 2005 20:00 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws 7, you what?! Phil You shouldn't need your CD if you have an SMA, your serial number(s) should already be authorised, so in theory you should just be able to download and install it from the web, then you can chase up your CDS. James