I seem to recall someone, maybe on this list, saying that someone was reserecting the Opticon. Does anyone know anything about this? Maybe its not called 'Opticon' now as there seem other products out there with that name, and maybe its been trademarked by now. Ray Personal emails: Email me at mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- ** To leave the list, send a message to:- ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq