[access-uk] Re: Is it illegal

Hi Andrew, well, if you are prepared to take the risk and make sure your
cards don't fall in the wrong hands you could perhaps change your pin code
to something that is easier to key in despite the lack of feeling in your
fingers. i.e. 1233 or even 0000 or 5555. You can use the index finger, the
middle finger and the third finger to key in 1233 or only with one finger
you can key in 5555 etc. Even if you set your pin code to 0000 that is still
safer than trusting someone with your code provides you use your other hand
to shield what you key in. And, this way the bank will still cover you in
case of fraud even your pin code is 0000.

I am sorry you are feeling down and frustrated.

Good luck.

Amro
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
andrew shipp
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 7:03 AM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Is it illegal 

yes they  will  because they understand  what I mean by no feeling in my
fingers.
-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Stone
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 10:02 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Is it illegal

Andy, but if the support workers have been told they're not allowed to do
it, then they won't will They?
Cheers
Alex
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
andrew shipp
Sent: 10 July 2011 09:29
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Is it illegal

yes I understand  all that.  but if all the support workers  are CRB checked
then  this is saying  that  they  are safe.  I've got about  twelve support
workers here  and not one of them  uses  my card without me being there.
every one of them is 100% trust worthy  a very  rare  thing  these days to
find

-----Original Message-----
From: Ibrahim Gucukoglu
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 9:18 AM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Is it illegal

Hi Andrew.

Well, strictly speaking it is against the terms and conditions of the
contract with your bank, which usually states that only you should know your
pin number, however if you do choose to give your pin number to your support
worker, it'll be a question of trust.  If your support worker should dame to
betray that trust by using your cards in a fraudulent manor, the bank is
under no obligation to refund you for any transactions made while the pin
number has been used, because the card has to be present for such
transactions.  In this respect and this respect only, chip and pin is
potentially more risky to use than the signature strip method, where you
have to hand your card to a cashier to be swiped because a cashier doesn't
need to see the card when paying using a terminal.

All the best and if you do have specific problems with your hands, you
should ask your bank about alternatives to withdrawing money if you don't
want to take unnecessary risks.

All the best, Ibrahim.

-----Original Message-----
From: andrew shipp
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 8:37 AM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Is it illegal

Hi All,     does anyone know if it is  100% illegal   for your support
worker  to put your pin number in  the ATM or  in one of the pin machines
in a shop?  I am diabetic  and have berry bad neuropathy   which is
affecting  my  fingers  now  meaning that I cannot feel  things  properly,
such  as the little   pip  on the number  five. I am so    determined  to
fight   the place where I live over this.  I  look forward to  any help
regarding  this problem.   Many  thanks in advance. Andy S

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