[access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs
- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:09:48 -0000
Hi Peter,
No it doesen't have GPS, but it does have Bluetooth. And that's another
issue I have with the iPhone. If you want to improve your GPS experience,
an external GPS receiver is a better bet. But you can't connect any to it,
because it's Bluetooth implementation is so bad.
All the best
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Peter Holdstock
Sent: Thursday 31 December 2009 14:05
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs
I don't think the touch has the GPS does it? I'm assuming it has the
bluetooth though?
Peter
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From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 2:00 PM
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs
> Hi Steve,
>
> Yes, it does. The Touch is simply the iPhone without a phone, no more, no
> less.
>
> All the best
>
> Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of
> Steve Hyde-Dryden
> Sent: Thursday 31 December 2009 11:12
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs
>
> Certainly Steve, on the Ipod touch safari ap, you can also navigate via
> heading or links using the rotation tool. I assume the I phone would do
> the
>
> same though, can't be sure as I don't have one smiles!
>
> Steve
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 7:09 AM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs
>
>
>> Hi Peter,
>>
>> But because Facebook is laid out as headings, you can navigate with Talks
>> using single keypresses, and you can even search for text on a web page.
>>
>> Horses for courses.
>>
>> All the best
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>> Of
>> Peter Holdstock
>> Sent: Thursday 31 December 2009 00:12
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs
>>
>> Oh forgot to say that I find the facebook and ebay apps much easier to
>> use
>> than the websites themselves as well. The big thing I like is that once
>> you
>> know the layout of the screens it becomes very natural to just put your
>> finger where you know the button orwhatever you want is. Using Talks I
>> couldn't do that, even if I knew where it was you still have to navigate
>> to
>> it.
>>
>> peter
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@xxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 12:05 AM
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs
>>
>>> Firstly, it's just the way they are implimented. Most apps have similar
>>> layouts and things that you get used to so finding your way around isn't
>>> hard.
>>>
>>> So far the useful apps I'm using include;
>>> * navigan GPS
>>> * Stocks and shares
>>> * reqall planner/management program which you use your voice to control
>>> * Sky + app to read the sky tv guide and control my sky +
>>> * Sky news and ITV news apps to watch the latest news
>>> * TV catch up to watch all the major channels in the UK including BBC,
>>> ITV, C4, C5 and lots more
>>> * Mail Plus to access my live mail account
>>> * relaxation software to help me sleep
>>>
>>> And I could go on. There are well over a hudnred thousand apps
>>> officially
>>> available for the iphone/ipod and it never gets boring as I can always
>>> have a look to see whats available. Many of the apps are free or cost
>>> less
>>
>>> than £2.
>>>
>>> There are lots of podcasts out there talking about it so have a listen
>>> to
>>> some of those. Just google iphone voice over
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Damon" <damon.rose@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 7:21 PM
>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs
>>>
>>>> can you tell us a bit more about the apps you use on the iPhone or
>>>> iTouch? And why you think they're better as you mentioned in an earlier
>>>> post.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks v much.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@xxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 7:19 PM
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I'd disagree and say it's a very good interface for the blind. The
>>>>> only
>>>>> downfall is the typing but now that apps such as dragon dictate are
>>>>> around that problem is solved. I can work much quicker using the
>>>>> iphone/ipod gestures then I ever could with Talks, having to try and
>>>>> move around a screen and navigate menus.
>>>>>
>>>>> Peter
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>> From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 5:41 PM
>>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Hussein,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You seem to make some assumptions here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am totally blind and I use the iPod touch. It is not an efficient
>>>>>> interface for the blind, but totally usable, and pretty well
>>>>>> accessible.
>>>>>> But Apple have designed voiceover so that it can be used by totals.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's a good music player, but I wouldn't want an iPhone for example,
>>>>>> as
>>
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> productivity it really sucks big time in my view.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All the best
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All the best
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Behalf Of
>>>>>> Hussein Patwa
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday 30 December 2009 02:32
>>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Steve,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for your post. You're the first VI person I've come across
>>>>>> using the
>>>>>> Touch and I'd be fascinated at just how much of the functionality of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> device you are able to use whilst remaining with the stock firmware.
>>>>>> If you
>>>>>> don't mind my prying, but you must have some residual sight to handle
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> touch interface? Would you say this is worth considering for others
>>>>>> needing
>>>>>> to look for a new media player (for example, if my iPod Video ever
>>>>>> kicks the
>>>>>> bucket) or would it be too difficult to handle?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now for your questions. For video conversion I use AVS Video
>>>>>> Converter. It
>>>>>> is a paid for solution but offers a wide range of presets you can
>>>>>> choose
>>>>>> from, including for iPods. It's also accessible with my Supernova
>>>>>> screen
>>>>>> reader, or easy to see if you are using magnification. No doubt
>>>>>> someone
>>>>>> will offer a free solution as I'm sure I've heard of one myself, but
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> name escapes me right now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HTH.
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>>>> Behalf Of
>>>>>> Steve Hyde-Dryden
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 12:59 AM
>>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Ipod Touch! and Macs
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OK Folks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Santa Claus brought me a great new little gadget for xmas! Yes, the
>>>>>> new 32
>>>>>> GB Ipod Touch. I've listened to a couple of podcasts re this and
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> got
>>>>>> to grips pretty well with it's function and how to get around it. I
>>>>>> have a
>>>>>> couple of questions however. I know there is a more specialised list
>>>>>> which
>>>>>> T and T run but wondered if there were many on the list? Also, does
>>>>>> anyone
>>>>>> have the sub details?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now for my questions:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1 What is the easiest way to get .avi files onto the ipod? I
>>>>>> believe
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> need to be converted first, how do people find the accessibility of
>>>>>> these
>>>>>> conversion tools? Also, where can I get the most accessible one
>>>>>> from?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I go into the music section of the front screen, is there a way
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> easily switch between artis, album and song views? How easy is it to
>>>>>> set up
>>>>>> play lists?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone got any suggestions for really cool aps which are free? Also
>>>>>> though,
>>>>>> any paid ones which, again, are accessible?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am pretty knocked out at how easy the touch screen is to
>>>>>> manipulate.
>>>>>> As
>>>>>> an additional question, how accessible are apple mac computers in
>>>>>> general?
>>>>>> presumably, there is more facilities in the full blown voice over ap?
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> hear it is akin to window eyes? So, does that mean you can get the
>>>>>> list of
>>>>>> links etc in safari?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are there any more tutorials etc for the touch? And my final
>>>>>> question,
>>
>>>>>> How
>>>>>> similar is it to the I-phone?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best wishes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>
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