[access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs

Hi Ibrahim,

The only app that is remotely accessible with the iPhone as far as GPS is
concerned, is Navigon.  It's biggest downfall is that it doesn't support
postal codes.  It is American and they don't think postal codes are
important from what I can see.  None of the blindness related products
support postal codes either, so Wayfinder in my view is the best out there
at the moment.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Ibrahim Gucukoglu
Sent: Thursday 31 December 2009 07:18
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs

Hi Steve.

I'd also add that with Symbian phones, you've far more choice when it comes 
to buying applications, there are a handful of stores, independent 
developers selling their own products etc, your not just buying from a 
single location as you have to on the IPod and IFone line of products.  Also

Peter, you talk of gps on the IFone, how accessible and more importantly how

much information do you get from the product you mentioned which I can't 
recall now *smile*.  Have you tried wayfinder access for instance?

All the best, Ibrahim.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 7:12 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs


> Hi Ibrahim,
>
> Your message and others just illustrates that there are just as many 
> Symbian
> apps if not more.
>
> All the best
>
> Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 
> Of
> Ibrahim Gucukoglu
> Sent: Thursday 31 December 2009 07:08
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs
>
> Hi Steve.
>
> Or, if you can't even be bothered to learn those commands, you could 
> always
> use a program like T9Nav, I bought it the other day for just over a fiver
> for my N86 and its a killer app for saving time and finding those hard to
> get to functions.
>
> All the best, Ibrahim.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 7:01 AM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs
>
>
>> Hi Peter,
>>
>> With respect, that's probably because you didn't take the time to learn
>> Symbian <Smile>.
>>
>> For example, if Contacts is your sixth option in the menu, you don't have
>> to
>> arrow at all, just press the menu and hit 6.
>>
>> If you want the 11th option, hit Star, and the twelfth hit Hash.  Bet you
>> didn't know that?
>>
>> If you want the 20th option then life gets a little trickier, but start
>> arrowing up rather than down.
>>
>> Also you can set up to 8 shortcuts on your phone, which can be accessed
>> with
>> single keys, using the joystick and key1 and key2.
>>
>> Because you really wanted to learn the iPhone, you did, and I respect
>> that,
>> but people don't always invest the time to learn Talks and the phone
>> itself.
>>
>> All the best
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>> Of
>> Peter Holdstock
>> Sent: Wednesday 30 December 2009 19:19
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs
>>
>> I'd disagree and say it's a very good interface for the blind. The only
>> downfall is the typing but now that apps such as dragon dictate are 
>> around
>> that problem is solved. I can work much quicker using the iphone/ipod
>> gestures then I ever could with Talks, having to try and move around a
>> screen and navigate menus.
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 5:41 PM
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs
>>
>>> Hi Hussein,
>>>
>>> You seem to make some assumptions here.
>>>
>>> I am totally blind and I use the iPod touch.  It is not an efficient
>>> interface for the blind, but totally usable, and pretty well accessible.
>>> But Apple have designed voiceover so that it can be used by totals.
>>>
>>> It's a good music player, but I wouldn't want an iPhone for example, as
>>> for
>>> productivity it really sucks big time in my view.
>>>
>>> All the best
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> All the best
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>>> Of
>>> Hussein Patwa
>>> Sent: Wednesday 30 December 2009 02:32
>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs
>>>
>>> Hi Steve,
>>>
>>> Thanks for your post.  You're the first VI person I've come across using
>>> the
>>> Touch and I'd be fascinated at just how much of the functionality of the
>>> device you are able to use whilst remaining with the stock firmware.  If
>>> you
>>> don't mind my prying, but you must have some residual sight to handle 
>>> the
>>> touch interface?  Would you say this is worth considering for others
>>> needing
>>> to look for a new media player (for example, if my iPod Video ever kicks
>>> the
>>> bucket) or would it be too difficult to handle?
>>>
>>> Now for your questions.  For video conversion I use AVS Video Converter.
>>> It
>>> is a paid for solution but offers a wide range of presets you can choose
>>> from, including for iPods.  It's also accessible with my Supernova 
>>> screen
>>> reader, or easy to see if you are using magnification.  No doubt someone
>>> will offer a free solution as I'm sure I've heard of one myself, but the
>>> name escapes me right now.
>>>
>>> HTH.
>>>
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>>>
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>>> Steve Hyde-Dryden
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 12:59 AM
>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Ipod Touch! and Macs
>>>
>>> OK Folks!
>>>
>>> Santa Claus brought me a great new little gadget for xmas!  Yes, the new
>>> 32
>>> GB Ipod Touch.  I've listened to a couple of podcasts re this and have
>>> got
>>> to grips pretty well with it's function and how to get around it.  I 
>>> have
>>> a
>>> couple of questions however.  I know there is a more specialised list
>>> which
>>> T and T run but wondered if there were many on the list?  Also, does
>>> anyone
>>> have the sub details?
>>>
>>> Now for my questions:
>>>
>>> 1  What is the easiest way to get .avi files onto the ipod?  I believe
>>> they
>>> need to be converted first, how do people find the accessibility of 
>>> these
>>> conversion tools?  Also, where can I get the most accessible one from?
>>>
>>> When I go into the music section of the front screen, is there a way to
>>> easily switch between artis, album and song views?  How easy is it to 
>>> set
>>> up
>>> play lists?
>>>
>>> Anyone got any suggestions for really cool aps which are free?  Also
>>> though,
>>> any paid ones which, again, are accessible?
>>>
>>> I am pretty knocked out at how easy the touch screen is to manipulate.
>>> As
>>> an additional question, how accessible are apple mac computers in
>>> general?
>>> presumably, there is more facilities in the full blown voice over ap?  I
>>> hear it is akin to window eyes?  So, does that mean you can get the list
>>> of
>>> links etc in safari?
>>>
>>> Are there any more tutorials etc for the touch?  And my final question,
>>> How
>>> similar is it to the I-phone?
>>>
>>> Best wishes.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
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